Sure, another leader in another time would be cooked. He’s the beginning of MAGA coming up here and hollowing out the conservative party, though. Something something shoot someone on fifth avenue and still be voted for.
Now, I suppose I can’t see inside the party and don’t know who’s coming to the convention, but I’m certain there’s a sizeable faction that sees this all as evidence they need to double down more, so I’d say odds are in his favour.
I hope you’re right, but what’s going on in the US isn’t normal or with modern precedent, and I’m pretty sure it’s same thing.
Although, Reform was before my time, so I don’t have a super great sense of what that was like.
The only difference between now and 20 years ago is the voters.
I mean, that’s always true isn’t it? You could even make a similar observation about history’s non-democracies. The culture changes, people who remember whatever thing age out, and that changes what’s politically possible.
And the Liberals were Conservatives? This was back when everyone was balancing the budget, so that adds. The Republicans of the day were respectable establishment types as well, very different from the fascist nonsense that it’s become.
The rest I kind of need to argue with a bit.
Immigrants will mostly be right of the status quo because there’s more reason to leave a right wing society than a left wing.
More-or-less true, although I’d tie both back to undereducation and underdevelopment. But that’s not new.
You can see that in the last election as boomers overwhelmingly voted Liberal while people under 34 voted Conservative.
Young people disproportionately voted NDP or Green, which ate into the Liberal share. Although they were all fairly split, as the chart shows.
You also see this reflected in policy as the further right you go the more immigration the party calls for.
Except this is almost never true anymore. Even PP has tried to raise a stink over immigrants, despite being in a country that’s 98% immigrant and unlike the US kind of knows it.
And the Liberals were Conservatives? This was back when everyone was balancing the budget, so that adds. The Republicans of the day were respectable establishment types as well, very different from the fascist nonsense that it’s become.
Left of the US like Canada has always been.
although I’d tie both back to undereducation and underdevelopment.
What do you think breeds conservatism?
Except this is almost never true anymore. Even PP has tried to raise a stink over immigrants, despite being in a country that’s 98% immigrant and unlike the US kind of knows it.
You just weren’t paying attention to the NDP or Cons in the last election then.
He complained about immigration from the Liberals but also boasted that he would have more.
X to doubt.
Sure, another leader in another time would be cooked. He’s the beginning of MAGA coming up here and hollowing out the conservative party, though. Something something shoot someone on fifth avenue and still be voted for.
Now, I suppose I can’t see inside the party and don’t know who’s coming to the convention, but I’m certain there’s a sizeable faction that sees this all as evidence they need to double down more, so I’d say odds are in his favour.
He’s the continuation of the Reform party. The only difference between now and 20 years ago is the voters.
I hope you’re right, but what’s going on in the US isn’t normal or with modern precedent, and I’m pretty sure it’s same thing.
Although, Reform was before my time, so I don’t have a super great sense of what that was like.
I mean, that’s always true isn’t it? You could even make a similar observation about history’s non-democracies. The culture changes, people who remember whatever thing age out, and that changes what’s politically possible.
Republicans, Conservatives were Democrats.
Immigrants will mostly be right of the status quo because there’s more reason to leave a right wing society than a left wing.
You can see that in the last election as boomers overwhelmingly voted Liberal while people under 34 voted Conservative.
https://thepostmillennial.com/boomers-tank-election-in-canada-as-only-demographic-to-vote-majority-liberal
https://schoolofcities.github.io/gta-immigration/rightward-minorities
You also see this reflected in policy as the further right you go the more immigration the party calls for.
Changing demographics in the voter base explains why the Reform Party is seeing success now.
And the Liberals were Conservatives? This was back when everyone was balancing the budget, so that adds. The Republicans of the day were respectable establishment types as well, very different from the fascist nonsense that it’s become.
The rest I kind of need to argue with a bit.
More-or-less true, although I’d tie both back to undereducation and underdevelopment. But that’s not new.
Young people disproportionately voted NDP or Green, which ate into the Liberal share. Although they were all fairly split, as the chart shows.
Except this is almost never true anymore. Even PP has tried to raise a stink over immigrants, despite being in a country that’s 98% immigrant and unlike the US kind of knows it.
Left of the US like Canada has always been.
What do you think breeds conservatism?
You just weren’t paying attention to the NDP or Cons in the last election then.
He complained about immigration from the Liberals but also boasted that he would have more.