It’s a diplomatic reset that would have seemed unimaginable months ago. After years of mutual hostility, Canada and China are beginning to thaw their once-frosty relationship. But **former national security analyst and policy advisor Dennis Molinaro **says Canada’s failure to act on decades of Chinese intelligence warnings has hurt our country’s ability to meet current geopolitical challenges. He speaks with Piya Chattopadhyay about the long and complicated history of Canada-China relations – and the lessons that should be applied to today.

This is a podacst (19 min).

Dr. Molinaro is a researcher at the University of Ontario focusing on counter-intelligence, foreign interference, the history of intelligence and the use of emergency powers in peacetime.

Dennis Molinaro also wrote an opinion piece: China’s secret war in Canada

… the West’s interactions with nation-states such as the People’s Republic of China (PRC), they have been governed by a specific delusion for half a century. Canada … believed that if it did business with China, extended a hand of friendship, China would transform itself into a liberal-democratic country. Trade would lead to freedom. But Canada was wrong. Beijing never considered joining a liberal order and instead used Canada as a backdoor to the U.S. and as a means of exploiting resources and technology.

… The stories of secret PRC police stations in the news a little more than a year ago weren’t a new phenomenon. The PRC had been interfering and seeking to influence the political and civic life in Canada for decades. And Canadian leaders have done little to deter adversaries from operating here.

But how did such a situation arise? To date, Canadians have had diplomatic histories of the Canada-China relationship but an intelligence history wasn’t incorporated into them. That’s necessary if Canada hopes to have a realistic appraisal and understanding of the relationship.

… The China that Canada’s leaders saw and engaged with was one they invented in their own minds. They saw a potential market for wheat and potash. They saw a counterweight to the U.S. They convinced themselves that economic liberalization would inevitably lead to political freedom. They weren’t alone in this thinking, even the U.S. adopted it, though its defences against Beijing were more developed than Canada’s.

… But the truth was that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) used western openness to build its economy and modernize its military. They used western universities to train their scientists. The West dreamed of partnership while China planned for dominance.

… The regime in Beijing operates on a concept of transnational sovereignty. It believes anyone of Chinese descent, regardless of their citizenship, owes their loyalty to China. By this logic, it doesn’t respect Canada’s borders as it hunts its critics in Canada. It harasses the Uyghur community, Tibetans, the Falun Gong, and Hong Kong pro-democracy activists and Taiwan independence supporters. It uses threats against family members back home to silence dissidents in places such as Vancouver and Toronto.

… This is transnational repression. It’s a foreign state enforcing its political will on Canadian soil … The United Front Work Department is an arm of the Chinese Communist Party tasked with influencing foreign elites and controlling the PRC diaspora abroad. Its goal is to make foreign decision-makers sympathetic to Beijing’s interests, and it cultivates relationships with influential figures at all levels from school boards to Parliament. In return, it expects support for China’s interests and silence on its indiscretions. During the April 2024 Hogue inquiry into foreign interference, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service reported that it believed China interfered in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections.

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    I don’t really agree with your proscriptive, semantic argument regarding apartheid, as the word is frequently used in reference to other states with racial or ethnic tensions. In some of those instances it may be an exaggeration of course, but that doesn’t invalidate its use more broadly.

    That said, I don’t agree that Canada is a literal apartheid state. Perhaps the argument is that reserves are a form of apartheid, but that’s rather naïve – reserves are (semi-)sovereign FN land, and first nations people have all the same legal rights as other citizens and then some, including the right to live off-reserve.

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      Oh, I’m just fucking with Yog. He’s a tankie shill whose only purpose here is to sow discontent with Western nations while talking up his favorite authoritarian states.

      Genuinely, I don’t see people speak of apartheid with reference to anywhere other than South Africa, and literally any searching of the word directs you back to South Africa, but I’m not so obtuse that I didn’t understand his meaning. I just like to drag him for using pseudo-intellectual language in some attempt to elevate his incredibly misguided arguments.

      Because, let’s be straight, Canada has had a racist history and is still not doing great for its first nations peoples, but to call it a current apartheid state is to dismiss just how badly South African native people’s were abused. And if Yog is going to try and dredge up a pointless, dishonest argument like that, I’m going to get him rambling aimlessly.

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        Yeah I agree about Canada. I have seen apartheid in reference to Israel Palestine quite frequently. But it’s a very one-state-solutionist sense.

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        I really love how much I get under your skin fash. Seems like you’re just fucking with yourself here while I live rent free in your head. Every time you reply you let me how upset you are and it warms my heart.

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          No book this time? C’mon, make a fool of yourself a little more. I love watching your little delusional dance.

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            Aww little muffin wants attention. Go huff some more gas and come back with some better material loser. Dance for me little fash.

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              Is literally just rewording whatever I said to you back at me all you have? Actually? As they say, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery…

              Honestly, building strawmen and replying with an overly eloquent “no u” seems to be your entire repritoire, outside of posting Chinese state propaganda. Perhaps I’m not the one who should be rethinking their material.