For me, this specific issue is more of a personal level, it’s not about me waging a war against slopgenerators, it’s about trust. Trust is gradually built item by item. My trust in a company consists of their actions over time. They make a good game - trust goes up. They commit to provide good working conditions to the workers and actually do that - trust goes up again. Them starting using slopgen reduces that trust. It reduces it enough so I don’t trust what they are saying anymore. It’s not that I’m starting war on them or whatever, but they lost enough of my trust so when they just say something, I don’t believe it outright, the way I do with any other company, because for a company the line going up is way more important that anything else, and honouring words demonstrably doesn’t put the line up. Before this shit, my trust in Larian was high enough so I might believe them publicly declaring something, but as it stands right now, I don’t anymore, and that’s kind of the extend of my approach to it.
All the previous games of theirs I preordered, early accessed, bought the second the buying option was available. This one I wouldn’t.
it’s about trust. Trust is gradually built item by item
But all it takes is one out-of-context quote to drop this accrued trust back to zero?
Them starting using slopgen reduces that trust. It reduces it enough so I don’t trust what they are saying anymore.
Honestly? This part is confusing me super hard. “They say the truth, my trust goes up. They say the truth again, my trust goes down and I no longer trust what they were saying before” - help me understand that.
I would get it if it was the other way around - “they say they don’t use slopgen, but that’s outed to be a lie, my trust goes down”, right?
because for a company the line going up is way more important that anything else, and honouring words demonstrably doesn’t put the line up
But isn’t it exactly the opposite? They admit to utilising AI tools (which don’t equal “slopgen”), which means they care more about trust and honesty, than the line going up, no?
And this is all extremely confusing to me specifically in the context of what Larian said - yes, they use AI tools, but they don’t use them for the games themselves (like, I don’t know, writing lines, or generating textures), they use them to speed up the menial tasks and give their artists more time to spend on making art. What’s wrong with that?
For me, this specific issue is more of a personal level, it’s not about me waging a war against slopgenerators, it’s about trust. Trust is gradually built item by item. My trust in a company consists of their actions over time. They make a good game - trust goes up. They commit to provide good working conditions to the workers and actually do that - trust goes up again. Them starting using slopgen reduces that trust. It reduces it enough so I don’t trust what they are saying anymore. It’s not that I’m starting war on them or whatever, but they lost enough of my trust so when they just say something, I don’t believe it outright, the way I do with any other company, because for a company the line going up is way more important that anything else, and honouring words demonstrably doesn’t put the line up. Before this shit, my trust in Larian was high enough so I might believe them publicly declaring something, but as it stands right now, I don’t anymore, and that’s kind of the extend of my approach to it.
All the previous games of theirs I preordered, early accessed, bought the second the buying option was available. This one I wouldn’t.
But all it takes is one out-of-context quote to drop this accrued trust back to zero?
Honestly? This part is confusing me super hard. “They say the truth, my trust goes up. They say the truth again, my trust goes down and I no longer trust what they were saying before” - help me understand that.
I would get it if it was the other way around - “they say they don’t use slopgen, but that’s outed to be a lie, my trust goes down”, right?
But isn’t it exactly the opposite? They admit to utilising AI tools (which don’t equal “slopgen”), which means they care more about trust and honesty, than the line going up, no?
And this is all extremely confusing to me specifically in the context of what Larian said - yes, they use AI tools, but they don’t use them for the games themselves (like, I don’t know, writing lines, or generating textures), they use them to speed up the menial tasks and give their artists more time to spend on making art. What’s wrong with that?