Why would one use this rather than just using something like Matrix or self-hosted Stoat? I’m not sure what it being “Discord compatible” really gets this project. Bot compatibility is nice, but aren’t most Discord bots closed source anyway?
I mean, if you want Matrix AND that it works, you just install ejabberd or prosody and go on with your life. But then there’s nothing fancy to report or brag about, it just works.
The “experimental” voice rooms are total trash, settings are not working (e.g. auto-gain can’t be disabled)
The Calls via Jitsi somehow have a worse UX than Skype had in its worst days
The verification via emojis uses different emoji styles, missing the point completely
Due to the session mess “Can’t decrypt message” will be your best friend
Even if you got a verified session it sometimes fails to decrypt a message
The federation is SLOW. As in “wait many many minutes” slow.
The whole Spaces-with-detached-rooms concept is a mess
There’re no proper moderation tools
There isn’t even a god damn admin panel! For the longest time you had to MANUALLY CURL THE API. Even today you have to mess with third-party admin panels that usually don’t have all options exposed
Encryption is nice, but Matrix leaking tons of metadata isn’t.
They effectively stopped developing the Element client in favour of Element X, which isn’t available in desktop. And also loves to break during verification.
Third-party clients sometimes work better, but certainly don’t expect anything but text chats with pictures there.
I really tried to like it, I even attempted to move a community over, attempted to self-host, all the jazz. It’s a steaming mess for years now with no end in sight, and literally everyone who tried it eventually left disenchanted. Don’t even bother trying it.
This was my experience. Every time people suggest it as a Discord alternative I’m like, have you actually tried it? I hate Discord as much as the next guy but Matrix doesn’t get anywhere close. I tried really hard to like it and give it a chance, but no.
They mock people for not self-hosting it, calling it a ‘skill issue.’ I mean, not everyone has the time and energy to deal with that level of friction.
Why would one use this rather than just using something like Matrix or self-hosted Stoat? I’m not sure what it being “Discord compatible” really gets this project. Bot compatibility is nice, but aren’t most Discord bots closed source anyway?
Because Stoat is also riddled with problems and Matrix is a dysfunctional hot mess.
I mean, if you want Matrix AND that it works, you just install ejabberd or prosody and go on with your life. But then there’s nothing fancy to report or brag about, it just works.
How is Matrix dysfunctional?
Where do I even start…
I really tried to like it, I even attempted to move a community over, attempted to self-host, all the jazz. It’s a steaming mess for years now with no end in sight, and literally everyone who tried it eventually left disenchanted. Don’t even bother trying it.
This was my experience. Every time people suggest it as a Discord alternative I’m like, have you actually tried it? I hate Discord as much as the next guy but Matrix doesn’t get anywhere close. I tried really hard to like it and give it a chance, but no.
They mock people for not self-hosting it, calling it a ‘skill issue.’ I mean, not everyone has the time and energy to deal with that level of friction.
In the proper timeline the superior proprietary platform Axon beat out Discord.
The cumulative hours we’ve lost screwing around with the manual placement spacial audio on Axon… When it went tits up we switched to Mumble tho
Well, Stoat sucks and has no vision or history of reasonably paced development. So, it’s more of a vaporware wish then actual software.