• RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca
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    9 hours ago

    @Dremor@lemmy.world @JonsJava@lemmy.world @PerfectDark@lemmy.world
    A strawman is when someone misrepresents the other person’s claim in a weaker or distorted way and then attacks that distorted version. I did not, instead I used reductio ad absurdum reasoning. This person claims that matrix is controlled by Israeli intelligence which is blatant disinformation. What about disinformation now?
    https://lemmy.ca/comment/21700498

    • Dremor@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      Your argument cannot be considered as an "reductio ad absurdum”, as it didn’t show any absurdity in your opponent arguments. Your argument could be considered as either an “argumentum ad lapidem” (dismissing a claim as absurd without demonstrating proof for its absurdity), but more realistically it is indeed a strawman, as you try exaggerate you opponent argument in order to weaken it (avoid because Israeli != avoid because of possible link to Israeli intelligence ties).

      Still, you are right to doubt some of your opponent proofs. I too have my doubt on that claim, but don’t have the time right now to fact check it.
      Feel free to link your own research here, if you find more reliable sources.

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        7 hours ago

        Understand what makes you happy. I’m not going to waste my time knowing that you’re not going to do anything at all. Here’s a quote from the comment I linked:

        Matrix foundation heavily courting law enforcement and getting funded by Israel.

        Where do you see that it’s just a possibility? That’s ridiculous. Again, it’s not a strawman.

        Even the first video linked here “Metadata is shared” asserts that “There’s a bunch of sensitivity to it because they are tightly linked to Israeli intelligence” at 15:00. That is the very definition of disinformation.