• leave_it_blank@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    158
    ·
    3 days ago

    “Support for all games cannot last forever.”

    Again and again and again… Sigh… Sadly I’m sure many of the comission will just believe that shit…

    But then again, the big companies are obviously scared, that’s a good sign at least.

    • Katana314@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      53
      ·
      3 days ago

      I wrote a Python script that says “lol” last week.

      50 years from now, it’ll still be runnable, and it’ll still say “lol”.

      Unless I update it to say “Ubisoft sucks dick”.

      • errer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        24
        ·
        3 days ago

        If you don’t update it to say “Ubisoft sucks dick,” you don’t support games!

      • DeadDigger@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        If you don’t update it I doubt that. We have computer programs that are 50 years old and are completely unable because the base computer changed so much

        • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          2 days ago

          So?

          Emulate.

          As long as the application doesn’t rely on something external like a server that no longer exists, it can always be run.

          This isn’t about a hardware system changing. If you can either find the original hardware or simulate it, it should run. Not just go “expiry date passed, fuck you”.

          You’re saying it can sometimes be practically impossible. That doesn’t mean it has to theoretically and actually impossible, too.

          • DeadDigger@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            2 days ago

            Well then pls get me an emulator for GamePark GP2X pls? Come on it isn’t even 20 years old.

            This is a very entitled take in my opinion, by all means. Further it shows me that you never wrote an emulator nor that you can even fathom how hard emulation actually is. All software that you use relies on external systems mostly your hardware and your operating system. Recreating both is extremely hard and time consuming so it is mostly done due to personal involvement and nostalgia. Both of which will not happen for something like python that is mostly used by scientists to cobble together c libraries.

            Without an os or hardware even an open source project will not be able to run. And this even ignores that emulators often don’t even run the software the same way so you are not really playing the same game.

            I answered a very very very polemic and populistic take and didn’t even say anything about how closed or open source code should be or how accessible software should be that is just what you interpreted into what I wrote.

            • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              2 days ago

              So what is it you actually wanted to add?

              If you aren’t bringing up practical difficulty to argue in favor of theoretical impossibility, what are you adding?

              How is difficulty relevant in the face of the importance of preservation?

              As for python… What?

              Why would you emulate for python, when what actually happens is that new interpreters get written? It already runs across several operating systems and processing architectures thanks to interpreters existing for each one.

              Python isn’t some hobby language anymore. Far too much serious infrastructure uses it for future interpreters not to get made.

    • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      2 days ago

      Well yes. Publishers of physical books absolutely cannot not put a piece of explosive inside their physical book, whose only point is to burn the book once said publisher claims it’s impossible to not set off the explosive after 25 years of “support”.

      Neither games nor gamers don’t need “support”. What they need is to not actively be belittled, castrated and mutilated by publishers.

      If this was done in the physical realm wirh equivalent tactics, there’d also be outrage.