There are pros and cons for either demographic: whilst being older may be ideal since not only you bypass age restrictions, you also have the capability on purchasing it with your own money without having to ask parents for that given that you have employment and recurring income. Gaming as a kid gives more time without having to dwell much on responsibilities that adults have to worry about but at the same time are held by school.

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    If you’re asking us adults, most of us wouldn’t know. Most of us dont have time for it anymore.

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      Am adult, have a full time job, raised a kid, and never had a point in time where I couldn’t game for without needing to make it a priority. Time spent watching shows and movies went down because I enjoyed games more, but if one has some down time they can choose to play games as an adult.

      Gaming as a kid was fun because it was new, it is still fun as an adult because I can pick and choose what to play and when to play it.

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        TV is the biggest waste of time. I enjoy some shows, but I can acknowledge that a lot of it really is just something to fill time rather than “art.” I’ve cut back my TV and YouTube consumption a lot, and it enables me to do a lot more non-passive hobbies. Worst case scenario I read or game, which I consider a much better use of my time.

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          Agreed, but I already watch maybe 1 hour of TV per week, and wouldn’t even have one if I didn’t have kids. Trust me, I’ve already looked for low-hanging fruit; I do not love being this busy.

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        I dont think its at all productive for us to compare responsibilities and measure. I invite you to consider that the level of responsibility in one’s life varies a great deal from one person to the next, even within the same demographic group.

        In your own post you stated that you never had a time where you couldn’t game without prioritizing it, and in my post I stated nearly the opposite. Either one of us is lying, we have a very different baseline level of “priority” for gaming, or we lead different lives in which mine is busier than yours.

        People often are dismissive of people’s responsibilities they have no way of knowing and offer the empty platitude, “You have to make time for what’s important to you,” but it is just that, a platitude. Everyone experiences a finite amount of time, and it absolutely can all get used up on critical things before leisure things can be considered. I know I personally have many important things I’d very much love to stop leaving idle, but there are, quite literally, not enough hours in the day. As I’ve aged I’ve gone from needing 4 hours of sleep to at least 6, for example. That’s 2 hours per day that are simply deleted from my calendar. Once you get to 24 hours, there’s no more hours.

        That whole line of thinking seems to me to be in the same family of thought as blaming poor people for not working more or harder-- it ignores a mountain of circumstances that make that impossible or irrelevant.

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          I was disagreeing with your statement that most adults don’t have time and gave a counter example. Never said that zero adults didn’t have time.

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        raised a kid

        I remember the Wii U being the greatest thing with a newborn because of the second screen. Holding a sleeping baby and playing Breath of the Wild was cool :D

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          Exactly, thank you. Of course I could prioritize gaming over nearly anything, but no reasonable person would for important things. I guess I have more things I feel are important going on than this guy and some others find believable. I assure you, I am not making up a story to earn fake Internet points that could not have less meaning.

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            As someone who once worked 3 jobs and went to college full time while also being a parent, that poster came off as a wildly ignorant asshole. Possibly a clueless child or a troll? IDK, but damn.

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            Me being a shit parent? Fuck off. You know nothing about me and your response reeks of being an entitled asshat.

            Do you even have kids or a career or do you just live in mommy’s basement? Are you a nepo baby maybe? Clearly you don’t understand what you’re talking about and have never had to really struggle.

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              Anyone can be a parent. Being a good parent, however, takes sacrifice. There are only so many hours in the day. And sure, I could game once they’re asleep but that means the laundry,dishes, lunches, etc. can’t get done which is a direct impact on their lives and your own. Most young parents will have to deprioritize gaming for years to make everything work. Imo good parenting comes with selflessness. Once your kids are properly automated you can slowly regain leisure time.

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                This heavily depends on how many hours you need to work each day. Two parents working 20h/week can have a lot of free time and may be able to afford a decent life in many places

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                Maybe you should collect your shitty, entitled, poorly informed take and just fuck all the way off? Again, you clearly have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about. You’re either a troll or an entitled moron.

                Speaking of time management, this concludes our conversation. Goodbye.

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        Ackshually, we don’t. If we prioritized gaming, we would not have any money for the games and hardware or the place to hook it up and use it.

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          “Prioritize” doesn’t mean putting it above everything else.

          How do you think most gamers have money for games?

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            I am using that word as follows:

            Prioritize: to adjust the priority ranking of something to a higher level than it was previously.

            not

            Prioritize: to assign something the highest priority.

            Maybe I am using the word wrong, but I believe both definitions to be valid. Sorry for the confusion.

            What I meant was that I do not have anything on my docket that I think a reasonable person would demote in priority to make room for gaming. That day may come, but it has not for many years now. You may be surprised how wildly varied people’s level of responsibility is and how busy that makes them.

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              Yeah, and you said…

              If we prioritized gaming, we would not have any money for the games and hardware or the place to hook it up and use it.

              Plenty of people find space in their schedules for gaming. And based on your more recent comment, you probably do have other hobbies or optional activities that you find more fulfilling than gaming…which is great!

              Some people game with their families. Some people find time for gaming instead of consuming other media like TV, movies, books, or social media.

              If you prioritize other hobbies beyond gaming, that’s great if it makes you happy.

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                I wish it were true. For me and I’m sure others, leisure activity must be planned, scheduled in advance, and coordinated with several people. Even then, it is not uncommon for it to be interrupted.

                I find it strange how many people find it unbelievable that there are people much busier than themselves that do not have time for impromptu leisure activity. I feel like I’m being punked.

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                  I’ve done full-time work and part-time college and still had time for leisure activities. My work weeks were about 60 hours, before getting into errands and such.

                  I’m not a parent myself, but my friends who are parents have hobbies and we have social interactions and meetups. Sometimes with their kids present, sometimes without.

                  I can’t speak to your situation. Maybe you are incredibly busy. Either way everyone on Earth gets the same 24 hours per day. And while I was lucky enough to be born in North America, I wasn’t born into any sort of extravagance.

                  Plenty of people have to plan and schedule leisure activity, including gaming. And there are plenty of options if you only have time for quick bursts here or there. Puzzle games and turn-based games are great for that.

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          It’s okay to prioritize family or whatever instead of gaming. But I know plenty of older gamers that don’t struggle or use “don’t have time” as an excuse to not play games.

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            I know older gamers too, and can tell you firsthand that the amount of “busy” in a person’s life varies wildly. I am the second busiest person I have ever met, and the busiest person does not have children and I do, for example.

            If I were to carve out more time for leisure, something else would absolutely have to suffer. Sure, that is a choice I could make, but I dont think any reasonable person evaluating the trade-offs in good faith would consider that choice to be on the table, hence why I used the “ackshually”. It is technically a choice to a pedant, but not really a choice to anyone acting sane.

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      For me personally the steam deck was a game changer, now I have a little pc I can carry around with me. I no longer needed to worry about those long ass quests or lack of save points because I can just put it to sleep and pick it up later when I have a moment.

      It’s still not as great as being able to sit down and just get lost in a game but it’s better than not having time at all.