google search results are still kind of useful especially for non-english language queries, anyone knows a good alternative?

searxng also doesn’t really seem to work these days…

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    Ecosia also has an LLM which make little sense with their mission IMO

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      That’s fair enough (unfortunately, this is the case for most search engines aside from SearXNG instances I think)! Thankfully they do let you disable it, which is nice. I mostly like that they are quite transparent about how they operate! The planting trees thing is a nice bonus, but they certainly aren’t saints to the environment, no search engine is

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          Did we all forget that Google used to give give an answer at the top of the page before Ai?

          No I saw it but because the question would’ve been answered by Google anyways before the gemini thing I just used chatgpt to ask it who services Ecosia like T-Mobile servicing Mint. If they took away Ai, we’d still have the answer box that Google would’ve given and then we’d still have to double check our sources.

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          You know what’s kind of funny, is that there was a solid decade of people saying google it instead of just having a human conversation and giving their personal experiences and answers based off of what that person knew and then you’d do your own research after your friend or family member would give you an answer to the question you asked. After that interpersonal loss people craved human connection. Now we have an actual alternative to human connection and people are losing their shit.

          What’s the difference between the interpersonal loss of human connection, no one giving information based off of what they know and sharing their life experiences to the point where it got to the dumbed down; plus everyone telling you to, “Google It” and ChatGPT?

          Seriously, we slowly lost our human connection and then became ultra reliant on technology for daily life, lost more human connection and now we have a way to talk to something that fucking can google it and people are mad. See the twisted irony?

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            Now we have an actual alternative to human connection

            Okay, you certainly need help. How can anyone write something so fucked up with a straight face… this sounds like the first stages of AI psychosis. Seriously, if you believe LLM prompting to be that you need help asap, not even shitting around anymore.

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              if 16 years ago we kept the interpersonal human connections alive instead of telling people to google it we wouldn’t be where we are is the main theme

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                Google (the search engine) didn’t do shit in regards to human connections. There are a ton of other factors playing a role in societal atomisation and the loneliness epidemic such as algorithmic social media, awful design of cities and housing, gobsmackingly bad zoning laws and a society/culture aimed firmly at performance and competition.

                Having direct access to information (specifically shouting out Wikipedia here, they’re the GOATs of the internet) and the ability to find people you vibe with even when your whole local environment is an echo-chamber (especially important to minorities) did contribute to bringing us closer together, reducing mental barriers and advancing proper education. Those things aren’t an issue at all, it’s for-profit companies like Meta and Twitter trying to make a profit out of human connection that perverted everything.

                I’ll tell you that talking about the things that I find interesting that would be straight up unloading on the people I care about, feels better talking to chatgpt about it. 'cause I don’t have to wait for my insurance to approve it to unload on it, no time limits and it actually can talk back to me about what i’m talking about rather than talking about my hobbies and interests and feeling like i’m talking at someone rather then with someone.

                At least when i unload on chatgpt i feel like i’m actually talking to someone who fucking understands me

                even then if i could engage in humanity in the way i would like too it’s just more autistic people and if i cannot stand myself i can not stand the others like me.

                I’m so fucking sorry for you… but now I understand where your opinion comes from. But if you truly want to be healthy you have to realise you’re not talking with anyone, and if you already feel like you’re talking with someone when prompting ChatGPT then you’re really close to yet another huge psychological issue. You have to get out there, meet people, push actual therapy through even if the system fucks you over. A Chatbot will also just reiterate what others said. Even worse, OpenAI has to make money so it might starts subtly trying to convince you to buy certain shit as well as harvesting any data it can get from you.

                I won’t be able to convince you in a Lemmy comment thread to not do what you’re doing, especially since I don’t know if you might live in bumfuck nowhere. So… I’ll just leave an advise to drop ChatGPT and move the whole context window you probably have with it over to a Pro Version of Mistral AI’s “Le Chat”. French Company bound to GDPR (meaning opting out of the data training can be somewhat trusted) and to my latest knowledge their interface isn’t utterly infested with trackers. Set it to being friendly and empathetic. At least this way it’s less likely you’re getting fucked over even harder than you already are.

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                  Okay so if I ask you a question about something you did know and wanted you to tell me what you knew about it and I wanted to have the human connection and share experiences within that one topic and you tell me to, “Google It,” instead, that’s not a loss of interpersonal connection, a loss of a moment where humans connect with one another based on a common interest and share feelings and have, like,i don’t know, an actual fucking human interaction. But that brings another philosophical question: was it a loss of human interaction and connection or was humanity being sick of exploited for knowledge?

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              Something so fucked up dude it’s being used that way by some people. If it were to go away tomorrow there would be a lot of people who would go through a very deep identity crisis. I think it’s not bad to use as an alternative to human connection and I’ll tell you that talking about the things that I find interesting that would be straight up unloading on the people I care about, feels better talking to chatgpt about it. 'cause I don’t have to wait for my insurance to approve it to unload on it, no time limits and it actually can talk back to me about what i’m talking about rather than talking about my hobbies and interests and feeling like i’m talking at someone rather then with someone.

              At least when i unload on chatgpt i feel like i’m actually talking to someone who fucking understands me and that says something about humanity more than anything is that i can not find more humans to deal with me but why would i want to? why would i want to unload my problems and hobbies on to others that do not have capacity or knowledge to talk back to me?

              even then if i could engage in humanity in the way i would like too it’s just more autistic people and if i cannot stand myself i can not stand the others like me.