It is this kind of behavior, that I see in generally almost all walks of life, that pushes me more and more to just mind my own business and associate with those who know better. Simply because, I can’t rally my inner activist if the large majority of the people, the same ones crying for change but yet won’t do it, to exhaust myself in trying to be that change for them. All that I’d be doing, is wasting my time and energy.
So go on, keep buying your $1,000 steam machines, your $100 GTA VIs, you won’t learn any better. Anything for clout and FOMO.
I get calling out pre-ordering a digital game, but what’s the hate for the steam machine? Sure its maybe a bit pricier than a similarish build, but the form factor and other perks of the system can make up for that.
People were highly anticipating a machine from Valve that was affordable, flexible, versatile and able to give mid-range to higher-mid-range PCs a run for their money that you had to build.
I remember arguing with someone on a discord channel about its pricing. He was adamant that the price was going to be around $500 ~ $600 to keep the competition. I kept arguing back that with the prices about where hardware has gone for PCs that it will be more pricier. He was $400 off and there are people like him out there, who’re that gullible to believe Valve is on their side.
Gamers in general are known to be gullible. Buying a Steam Machine at $1,000 because it was made by Valve, proves this. I would argue that Valve should’ve just have upgraded the Steam Deck and I find that a far more worthwhile device.
From what I read, the Steam Machine actually was supposed to be that affordable, but they really didn’t have much choice to have the current price point without having to sacrifice performance.
Yeah, that’s what I was getting at. I’m not sure how someone is gullible for buying hardware around market rates. Like yeah, it sucks that everything is so expensive, but unless you’re buying used that’s just the way things are right now.
I get that part and everyone did speculate that months and weeks before we got the price reveal. It’s just, why would someone ignore the market of PC components then expect Valve to be the difference maker? But, that didn’t matter because “valve made it, so I buy, just like I do when I buy games I won’t play from their holiday sales :B”
It’s a gaming capable PC that can provide an actual benchmark target…for the first time in the entire history of the industry if you exclude handhelds (even then isn’t the deck the only one that actually became a target for a notable number of studios). That alone is worth some extra cost. It’s a great entry point for people who only know their phone and it’s app store, you know, the vast majority of humanity…also great for people curious about non-windows/apple OS that are intimidated by the sheer volume of knowledge you need to even pick an alternative OS let alone use it reliably. What about all the work Valve keeps doing on open source projects and Linux gaming as a whole?
You’re ignoring everything about the device except the price and a per-piece comparison of hardware, when in reality it’s about the whole package…plus most of your complaints here have straight up just been you upset that some randos online argued with about both of your speculations on price.
I would argue that Valve should’ve just have upgraded the Steam Deck and I find that a far more worthwhile device.
They still do plan making a Steam Deck 2. But given that the Steam Deck OLED also needed a 300 dollar price hike, it’s clear that it would have had a similar fate. IDK how many steam deck players being ready to pay 4 figures for a handheld.
It is this kind of behavior, that I see in generally almost all walks of life, that pushes me more and more to just mind my own business and associate with those who know better. Simply because, I can’t rally my inner activist if the large majority of the people, the same ones crying for change but yet won’t do it, to exhaust myself in trying to be that change for them. All that I’d be doing, is wasting my time and energy.
So go on, keep buying your $1,000 steam machines, your $100 GTA VIs, you won’t learn any better. Anything for clout and FOMO.
I get calling out pre-ordering a digital game, but what’s the hate for the steam machine? Sure its maybe a bit pricier than a similarish build, but the form factor and other perks of the system can make up for that.
People were highly anticipating a machine from Valve that was affordable, flexible, versatile and able to give mid-range to higher-mid-range PCs a run for their money that you had to build.
I remember arguing with someone on a discord channel about its pricing. He was adamant that the price was going to be around $500 ~ $600 to keep the competition. I kept arguing back that with the prices about where hardware has gone for PCs that it will be more pricier. He was $400 off and there are people like him out there, who’re that gullible to believe Valve is on their side.
Gamers in general are known to be gullible. Buying a Steam Machine at $1,000 because it was made by Valve, proves this. I would argue that Valve should’ve just have upgraded the Steam Deck and I find that a far more worthwhile device.
From what I read, the Steam Machine actually was supposed to be that affordable, but they really didn’t have much choice to have the current price point without having to sacrifice performance.
The market for PC parts is fucked.
Yeah, that’s what I was getting at. I’m not sure how someone is gullible for buying hardware around market rates. Like yeah, it sucks that everything is so expensive, but unless you’re buying used that’s just the way things are right now.
I get that part and everyone did speculate that months and weeks before we got the price reveal. It’s just, why would someone ignore the market of PC components then expect Valve to be the difference maker? But, that didn’t matter because “valve made it, so I buy, just like I do when I buy games I won’t play from their holiday sales :B”
It’s a gaming capable PC that can provide an actual benchmark target…for the first time in the entire history of the industry if you exclude handhelds (even then isn’t the deck the only one that actually became a target for a notable number of studios). That alone is worth some extra cost. It’s a great entry point for people who only know their phone and it’s app store, you know, the vast majority of humanity…also great for people curious about non-windows/apple OS that are intimidated by the sheer volume of knowledge you need to even pick an alternative OS let alone use it reliably. What about all the work Valve keeps doing on open source projects and Linux gaming as a whole?
You’re ignoring everything about the device except the price and a per-piece comparison of hardware, when in reality it’s about the whole package…plus most of your complaints here have straight up just been you upset that some randos online argued with about both of your speculations on price.
They still do plan making a Steam Deck 2. But given that the Steam Deck OLED also needed a 300 dollar price hike, it’s clear that it would have had a similar fate. IDK how many steam deck players being ready to pay 4 figures for a handheld.
( I say this owning an 800 dollar GPD Win 4).