• Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org
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    6 hours ago

    How many decades has Bethesda been dogshit?

    I mean I loved TES and I am praying they just re-release Sjyrim 87 more times rather than destroy the series by touching it again.

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      2 hours ago

      We thought all the game companies in the past were great because we weren’t as in tune to what were bad practices, skullduggery, and just generally shitty behavior. Bethesda has always released bug riddled messes of games, just that community modding and the time frame they came out there weren’t many like that. Companies have always wanted to make money and did whatever they could to get it.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      Always.

      They’ve just always gotten a free pass because of second hand credit from all the incredible modding that happens on their games.

      If their games were not moddable, and they did not have a community to rely upon having done billions and billions of dollars in free work and labor for them, Bethesda as a company would have probably died 20 years ago.

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      3 hours ago

      Probably always, but I like to think that the company that gave me Arena and Daggerfall wasn’t dogshit yet.

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    14 hours ago

    Should just ignore it. What’s Bethesda going to do about it?

    Honestly I wouldn’t even be surprised if this is AI overzealously abusing DMCA, which is hyper-omega-turbo-common nowadays. It came from Tracer, not Bethesda, so this is the most likely explanation. The ONLY thing they could ding the guy on is MAYBE trademark infringement, but then he can just change the name from fo2 to something else and no problems. I don’t see why he cant just do that.

    I also don’t see why him serving is important to the story for any reason other than sympathy points. Whether he was serving in a war or not is irrelevant to how erronious the DMCA abuse is. The abuse is just as bad either way.

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      8 hours ago

      Military behind lines can be pretty important because of delays in them receiving notices and their ability to do anything about it. Pretty much every legal notice gets a timeframe before things occur. Usually something like a month is sufficient, but for someone in military service, who have arguably the best excuse to not be able to do regular things for a whole month, the usual polite way to go about things is to wait for them to return home, and historically, courts have thrown out cases for people who didn’t do that, because it wasn’t a reasonable amount of notice.

      No idea about the legalities of this particular case, but it is extra rude, getting a court date and losing by default for not showing up when you didn’t show up because another part of government mandated you be on a battlefield.

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      14 hours ago

      What’s Bethesda going to do about it?

      They could try invading Ukraine. All my Russian acquaintances assure me it’s quick and easy.

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      14 hours ago

      Makes me think of a recent Davie504 video where he said he got a copyright notice for playing “the sound of silence” when what actually happened was he joked he was going to and then played a muted video of him playing the bass. Actual insanity.

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    14 hours ago

    What’s the DMCA got to do with Ukraine? The US legal code doesn’t have worldwide jurisdiction, despite what they may think.

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      10 hours ago

      With Ukraine nothing, with google play where this emulator is published obviously a lot, also bigger services even local often comply with DMCA requests even if they aren’t required to honor them or take any action by law.

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    14 hours ago

    As per the reddit post it’s Tracer, a copyright enforcement company working on behalf of Zenimax and Bethesda, not Bethesda directly. I would be surprised if this was intentional because there is nothing but bad PR to gain. It’s probably just a false positive.

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      13 hours ago

      It’s always annoying how “it’s just a contractor/company working on their behalf” is used as an excuse.

      No, this is on Bethesda.
      They hired this copyright troll and they’re responsible for fraudulent DMCA requests sent on their behalf.

      They have enough money to either vet their contractors, or do the job themselves.

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        13 hours ago

        This is not an excuse. I was adding nuance to the claim made in the title. I also don’t disagree that Bethesda is ultimately responsible for the contractors it hires, and if Tracer made an erroneous DMCA request, Bethesda should take responsibility for correcting it. However, given Bethesda’s previous treatment of similar projects like Daggerfall Unity and OpenMW, I think a simple error is a more plausible explanation than the company being a copyright troll or an intentional action by Bethesda.

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        13 hours ago

        Absolutely this. I wish I could say I thought higher of Bethesda than employing copyright trolls, but unfortunately I guess I’m not surprised.

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        13 hours ago

        This, no amount of contractual deniability can absolve from responsibility for subcontractors action.

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        12 hours ago

        oh stop your outrage, saying that it was a contractor is just context, not an excuse.

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      12 hours ago

      “It’s just a false positive” while a regular person has their life fucked up. Whether it’s first party or another company hired to do the job, these giant companies don’t deserve any grace when they abuse DMCA.

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      Even if the traffic of the torrent protocol is peer-to-peer, there have to be central nodes managing all that unfortunately. This is why DMCA notices are also successful with torrent providers. Without anyone providing that central node, no torrent works.

      One of the major weaknesses of bittorrent.

      Edit: the solution is called DHT and I was a morron totally forgetting about that.