I should clarify. Like if it’s on their website to download freely, why is it on them to police it? If thr gov is going to do something stupid like that, people can still download it.
Signal is a centralized platform, even with the software rely on Signal’s servers to make connections. Blocking access to Canadians is easier than fighting a legal battle with a federal government for facilitating encrypted communications with no backdoor.
I’m saying they don’t have to block anything. “Hi I’m signal and I exist over here”. They aren’t enabling Canadians but just having servers on the internet.
Buddy, the service they provide is end to end encrypted messaging with no backdoor. If Canada makes that illegal, via c-22, then Signal will be operating an illegal service in Canada. They will block access to Canadian usesers to protect themselves from legal attack from the Canadian government.
I just don’t think it’s so black and white. So I connect to a VPN that goes to… I dunno, Africa. Then I use signal. It’s still E2EE. And I’m still in Canada.
I can explain this a dozen more times but I can not understand it for you.
If C-22 becomes law Signal will stop serving Canadian users. You can use a VPN to access Signal but that is a direct action taken by you to bypass a regional block. If VPN providers also stop serving Canadian users, because that would violate a Canadian ban on encryption, how are you going to access Signal? If the Canadian government gives ISPs permission to block VPN providers operating outside of Canada how will you access Signal?
This isn’t a problem that gets fixed by sideloading an app onto your phone, this is a problem with Canadian law and Canadian politicians jerking off corporations.
I understand that signal will stop, my point is why bother putting in preventative measures.
Say there’s a law that says it’s illegal for Canadians to go to the united states. Say the united states has no border. Should the united states enforce border security because the Canadian government said so?
Listen, I understand what is happening and I’m not in any way supporting it, I just think it’s odd that signal has to pull out instead of the Canadian government blocking it. You know what I mean yet?
I don’t understand how signal can “pull out” of Canada.
Pull their app from in Canada, block connections to their servers from IPs owned by Canadian ISPs.
I should clarify. Like if it’s on their website to download freely, why is it on them to police it? If thr gov is going to do something stupid like that, people can still download it.
Signal is a centralized platform, even with the software rely on Signal’s servers to make connections. Blocking access to Canadians is easier than fighting a legal battle with a federal government for facilitating encrypted communications with no backdoor.
I’m saying they don’t have to block anything. “Hi I’m signal and I exist over here”. They aren’t enabling Canadians but just having servers on the internet.
Buddy, the service they provide is end to end encrypted messaging with no backdoor. If Canada makes that illegal, via c-22, then Signal will be operating an illegal service in Canada. They will block access to Canadian usesers to protect themselves from legal attack from the Canadian government.
I just don’t think it’s so black and white. So I connect to a VPN that goes to… I dunno, Africa. Then I use signal. It’s still E2EE. And I’m still in Canada.
I can explain this a dozen more times but I can not understand it for you.
If C-22 becomes law Signal will stop serving Canadian users. You can use a VPN to access Signal but that is a direct action taken by you to bypass a regional block. If VPN providers also stop serving Canadian users, because that would violate a Canadian ban on encryption, how are you going to access Signal? If the Canadian government gives ISPs permission to block VPN providers operating outside of Canada how will you access Signal?
This isn’t a problem that gets fixed by sideloading an app onto your phone, this is a problem with Canadian law and Canadian politicians jerking off corporations.
I understand that signal will stop, my point is why bother putting in preventative measures.
Say there’s a law that says it’s illegal for Canadians to go to the united states. Say the united states has no border. Should the united states enforce border security because the Canadian government said so?
Listen, I understand what is happening and I’m not in any way supporting it, I just think it’s odd that signal has to pull out instead of the Canadian government blocking it. You know what I mean yet?
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