I mean, there’s clearly a demand for it since the prices have gotten through the roof. Should I really purchase one or is it pointless and a waste of money. What’s the reason behind its sudden resurgence despite it being an “old” console as the Switch lineup has replaced it? Does it have to do with physical game ownership?
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Did the 3DS hack a few months ago, and it’s been great. Even if you only play games you own, keeping them all on one SD card has been so convenient.
It’s worth it if you can get it for cheaper than an AYN Thor, and always worth it if you have anyone you know who also still uses a DS/3DS because of local wireless multiplayer.
The tradeoff with a Thor (or the couple of other ds emulator handhelds) is that you lose out on local wireless multiplayer (emulators might eventually support this in the future, they only do WFC via WiFi at this time) and the specific hardware gimmicks of the 3DS (3D, stereo cameras, perfect input latency, etc.) but you get access to GC, Wii, WiiU, PS1/2, PSP, Switch 1, and Steam/PC games.
What’s the reason behind its sudden resurgence despite it being an “old” console as the Switch lineup has replaced it?
This is gonna sound like nostolgia glazing but really the DS era was Nintendo at their finest and the absolute gold standard of handheld gaming and a serious platform for handheld technology of the time. Stuff like streetpass could have easily been utilized for some amazing technology in other platforms like smartphones. The 3DS gets access to all of that + its own 3DS library of games, which is why its the most optimal console to buy.
95% of that library will never see the light of day again because they relied on the specific hardware the DS/3DS offered, the main one being the two screens. It would be impractical/impossible to remaster most, and Nintendo is still wary of attempting to emulate even a handful for their virtual console due to the aforementioned hardware and a bunch of PITA development required to make it work well (see the MelonDS forums of how long its taken to get to a solid state).
It’s been in high demand ever since they ended production because of that reason, and it continues to climb due to limited supply.
Does it have to do with physical game ownership?
No, you should homebrew your 3DS to make it incredibly more viable to use and everyone uses big SD cards to hold all of their game ROMs and data.
You aren’t ever going to recreate the same experience with an emulator. If you want to experience those games as intended, your only option is to buy physical hardware made for playing them.
The hacking scene for the 3ds is fucking amazing. I’m literally on here while I wate for mine to convert the Pokemon Emerald file to native game file. I can literally access TOR on this thing, it’s frankly unbelievable what you can do with homebrew.
If you want to play 3ds you have 3 decent options.
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Buy a 3ds for like $200. Hack and jailbreak it. This will be the most authentic experience.
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Buy a retro handheld. This will be a good experience and has the benefits that come with Linux based handhelds.
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Play on Android phone and use a 3d printed joycon holder. If you have a printer or friend with one and some old switch controllers this option is really cheap and mimics the OG form factor fairly well. I use this and while it’s not perfect, it is functional.
The DS is resurging because there’s no mainstream handhelds now, the DS has a large library and was the most recent successful handheld.
The DS is resurging because there’s no mainstream handhelds now, the DS has a large library and was the most recent successful handheld.
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Lol, the Vita is right there and getting Nintendo GCN and previous slop ported to it as I type
And yet almost nobody but a few hardcore fans even care.
For being such an underpowered handheld, the NDS left Sony’s attempts in the dirt.
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Just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s obsolete.
Just because something is obsolete doesn’t mean it’s ineffective.
The library definitely still holds up, especially since you can also run NES, SNES, GBC, GBA and NDS games via homebrew as well. Games for 3DS are more designed for portability as well, better suited for short pick up and play bursts and easily paused/saved for later as opposed to console games that tend to expect you to have more time to dedicate to them.
That being said, with original hardware going up in price it might be better just to get a cheaper replica device. You’re probably going to be emulating most games anyways, it does not need to be on original hardware. I would only spring for a real 3DS if you are a real retro hardware fan or if there’s a particular game you want that doesn’t work on one of the knockoffs.
I thought about getting a backup new 3dsxl to compliment my current one because it’s fantastic. I think I would much rather have a Retroid Pocket Duo with that slick OLED screen.
Love my 3DS but when it dies I’ll probably go to a replica machine. OG hardware is dated.
Yeah we’re at a point far enough past the 3DS’s heyday that replicas are generally better quality and cheaper now
I still wonder how the replica machines handle 3DS homebrew, though I suppose a lot of it probably doesn’t matter since it’s enabling or expanding on 3DS functionality that the replica machines would already have built in
Unless you’re a diehard hardware collector I would say no. As others have mentioned, there are great alternatives now that will cost maybe 10-20% as much, and possibly give you additional features or flexibility.
I’m surprised how many people are saying yes. Y’all got that much money to burn?
EDIT: Ok I see one person says the emulators are a bit lacking or wonky for the 3DS since it’s an unusual device. If you want a 100% accurate experience then sure, I guess there’s no substitute for the real thing. That’s not a hard requirement for me personally.
Alternative stylus experience is disappointing using a rubber tipped stylus. The touch screen with stylus is like the main unique draw of the DS and 3DS that unless you are only sticking to games that don’t use it for gameplay the original is still better.
Do you want to have a 3DS? If so, then yes it would be “worth” purchasing one.
But if you’re asking as part of the hobby Scalper-Investor-Bro racket: please kindly go fuck yourself and get an actual job.
I collect gaming handhelds and own several 3ds handhelds, modded and un-modded. I also have a modestly large collection of games. The modding potential is high, but even unmodded, the big draw for me is:
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Form factor. The non-xl version is very pocketable, and the XL takes up very little space in a backpack.
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Exclusive game selection. There are soooo many excellent titles. The Etrian Odyssey series. Shin Megami Tensei. Fire Emblem. Pokémon. Several Legend of Zelda titles. If you love classic RPGs there’s an abundance here. Sure, you could emulate, but I think there’s no replacement for playing these games as originally intended.
The biggest reason to stay away is obviously cost. I’ve paid up to $1200 usd for new in box examples, and even fairly chewed up 3ds handhelds can run you a couple hundred. The games are also highly collectible, and while there are many cheap titles to be found on eBay, most of the really desirable games can run you $50-$400 depending on condition, obviously with sealed games in brand new condition being extremely costly.
If funds are tight you’d be much better off emulating on one of many quality emulation devices. The market is rife with really good hardware for retro gaming.
I got an ambassador new 3ds (cib) for 150 or 200€ or so.
Even at that time I was very surprised. But that was an honest seller with a surprisingly nice attitude.
I also bought fire emblem fates se when it was new. Since it includes all 3 parts I knew I’d be better off buying it directly.
The biggest reason to stay away is obviously cost. I’ve paid up to $1200 usd for new in box examples, and even fairly chewed up 3ds handhelds can run you a couple hundred.
What. I got a New3DSLL used from Japan for like €50 (plus shipping plus VAT) in 2021. No box and charger, minor scratches but otherwise doesn’t look bad, looks obviously used, for that price it didn’t feel bad. Where is it costing 1200 in this year?
Limited edition sealed units, like the purple galaxy or various Nintendo IP special editions. They can get plenty higher than $1200.
eBay for a complete in box, especially for a harder to find SKUs like the Pokemon Red and Blue version of the New 3DS. I saw one of those for 2k on eBay just last month.
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Emulation is probably part of its popularity.
If the system has games you want to play on it, perhaps should go for it. If you don’t really care, then don’t.
To anyone thinking about buying a 3DS: If you like the form factor and if you’re not opposed to emulation, I’d suggest you look at some dual-screen Android handhelds like the Anbernic RG DS, Retroid Pocket Duo, or Ayn Thor. They’re quite neat pieces of hardware. The Retroid and Ayn handheld are powerful enough to emulate 3DS games, the Anbernic one (the only one of these I own) isn’t, but it’s able to emulate DS and PSP games quite well and play simple 3D games (I’ve spent last weekend trying to run Morrowind on it).
To anyone thinking about buying a 3DS: If you like the form factor and if you’re not opposed to emulation, I’d suggest you look at some dual-screen Android handhelds like the Anbernic RG DS, Retroid Pocket Duo, or Ayn Thor.
Why would you? My argumentation is, if you like the form factor and want to play 3DS games, why emulate it rather than playing it native on original hardware? Just hack to jailbreak the 3DS. I think it plays DS games as well? Unless you want to emulate other systems such as PSP in example.
The Ayn Thor has such a beautiful display. I’d rather play on that.
Another good point I didn’t think of before. Glad I asked.
Stylus on the dual screen emulator handhelds look subpar to the rubber tipped ones. I think stylus is the main draw of 3DS and DS games, and that is going to be the big con for stylus heavy games. Some games only use the stylus like Trauma Center Under the Knife, and trying to draw in games like Pokémon Art Academy with rubber tipped stylus doesn’t sound great.
Until some spen, apple pencil, wacom quality pen for emulator dual screen handhelds comes out I’m sticking with the original hardware.
Price. At least one person here says the official hardware is going for like US$1200 on eBay.
Maybe features too. I generally prefer to emulate older games because of instant save states, fast-forward, slow or rewind, rendering improvements, that sort of thing. Not sure how much of that is possible with jailbreaking.
That must be some mint unopened special edition 3DS. Cheapest route is to get Japanese used 3DS and jailbreak it.
Reason to prefer original for 3DS is that emulator handhelds have subpar stylus for stylus heavy games. I’ve been drawing with Pokémon art academy on mine.
I personally prefer emulation if its good too. And yes, some features would be a reason to do it, I didn’t think about those. To me emulating 3DS was always a hassle that the only solution I saw was using original hardware to play the games. Now that you brought it up, I can see it. Also the price is true too. I don’t think it will go down, if anything, in future it might be more rare and go up.
Good points.
More powerful handhelds can also upscale and handle heavier graphical tweaks. Honestly, except for the actual 3D effect itself the experience for me has just been better in general on an emulation handheld.
Also, in my experience setting up an emulation handheld was easier than setting up a hacked 3DS.
Got my Ayn Thor shipping email a few days ago! I’m very excited to set it up and be able to emulate all kinds of games on DS like form factor
It has an amazing library, and even with the slew of new devices coming out I still feel that original hardware is the absolute best way to play that library.
IMO, the biggest flaw with the new handhelds is that they all use capacitive touchscreens since resistive just isn’t manufactured anymore. Touchscreen-centric DS and 3DS games were designed with stylus use in mind, and capacitive styluses kind of suck for that. This applies moreso to the DS library, not as many 3DS games are stylus-driven, but there are some and if you want to play them you will have a much better experience on original hardware. No other handhelds offer the 3DS’s glasses-free 3D either, which I know not everyone cares about to begin with, but I personally do like it, so it’s another factor to keep in mind that you’ll miss out on.
If you want to play online, Pretendo Network only supports original hardware. Real consoles have a unique ID that is signed, and if you misbehave they will ban you from the network. But emulators can freely change and spoof IDs to circumvent bans, so they have to just not be allowed on the network to begin with. Pretendo is still in its infancy anyway, not many games are supported and there isn’t much of a playerbase, but if you care about it then it’s something to be aware of.
Also note that if you want to play original DS games, I prefer an original DSi, or DS Lite due to the screen resolution. While the 3DS is backwards compatible, the screen resolution is not an integer scale, so it’ll look awful if you scale to fullscreen or tiny if you keep it original size. The latter is less bad on an XL, but you’re better off just rocking fully original hardware. I prefer DSi for softmodding and the DSiWare library, but if you really need the GBA slot too go with the Lite. GBA is much more easily emulatable elsewhere anyway though, unless you’re specifically looking to play DS games with slot-2 interactions.
But if you don’t already own any of these systems, I don’t think the absurd prices they’re going for right now are fair. Although the emulator handhelds do have some flaws, they’re ultimately easier to get a hold of now, and they do have pros when it comes to an all-in-one device that’ll also emulate other platforms. N3DS has some some decent emulator support of its own, but is even more expensive, while O3DS can’t play much more than its own library.
So every device has its pros and cons, figure out what your use case is and how much you’re willing to spend. Do you want the best possible experience for 3DS and/or DS games specifically, or would you rather have a jack-of-all-trades device that does everything else? I love my old DSi and 3DS because I already own them, but I don’t think I’d pay full price for them today.
In my opinion, the biggest reason for the resurgence is that there are no more handheld consoles anymore. At least not traditionally. The Switch, and portable PCs like the Steam Deck et al are PORTABLE, but not pocketable, which is the real test of handheld consoles for a lot of people. Anything now is “you can maybe fit it in your backpack” at best.
Physical media/media ownership may contribute, but Switch is pretty good about that, and it is easy to pirate on PC.
Hardware manufacturers have noticed this, and there are some Android based emulation machines that copy the form factor. If I wanted such a device I’d go for that, most can emulate 3DS with better resolution. But there’s something to he said for the simplicity of popping in the game and that’s it.
Thats depend on what’s your intent is. If you just wanna play the game, like the other comment said, there’s a better dual screen android based handheld, which can emulate all nintendo handheld while also capable of playing some pc games with gamenative and droiddeck.
But the pros of 3ds is really how well build that thing is. I bought my n3dsxl in 2015 and use it until 2016, then left untouch until earlier this month. Thing still run as smooth as i remember more than 10 years ago, most thing still hold well, just have to fix up some rubber part and i’m already good to go.
Another pros is, i feels like emulator doesn’t even come close to how good to play the game natively, i feels like this and DS might be the only two popular console that you just can’t emulate the feels, especially the game that use the stylus. The 3ds lower screen is resistive touch screen, which mean you can just use anything as a stylus, where a capacitive touchscreen can’t. On pc you have to awkwardly use a mouse for that, and on phone you have to use your finger for it, obscuring the thing you’re clicking.
As for the games, it has a lot from the 3ds, but the backward compatibility mean the library is huge. It has all the good pokemon, the best Tales of, Chrono Trigger, Luigi Mansion 1 & 2, best Zelda game of all time, and many more. I’ve only start exploring it this months and can already see a lot of game that i might like. There’s also drawing app which make great use of the stylus.
But the biggest thing i think 3ds is really great and no other device is offering is the 3d camera. Now i can take a pic of my cats, but in 3D. Worth it. Oh and gaming in 3d without awkward eyeware.
But is it worth the current price? Idk, but it might be the last nintendo product you actually own the thing especially when you load it up with custom firmware(we all do that, right? Right?), while they can just brick your Switch when they feels like it.
