Nope, many would-be supporters (I’m not just talking greens, I’m talking NDP too) said the BCNDP wasn’t good enough, super liberal, destroying the environment because they compromised on a southern pipeline expansion to avoid a northern lng project and somehow fighting against indigenous rights on behalf of the Musqueam in the Cowichan case. So, here we are, welcome to the government of BC’s dreams, principles and conscience.
So you’re blaming the voters who went Green rather than the party that should be reading the room and shifting to where the voters are if they want their votes?
A first order estimation, take 275k ndp voters that chose not to vote, subtract 23k new green voters that could have moved from ndp (so excluding them from blame), it’s around 250k people that sat it out for the ndp I’m blaming for this the most giving the Conservatives the win.
Green splitting is a reality, particularly on Vancouver island but it’s the same as every FPTP election. It’s not the fact people voted for greens that I blame them for. It’s the promotion of the idea that BCNDP and Conservatives are no different, which helps depress turnout, rather than a yes/and. We’re about to see very clearly what the difference is. I tried to get the vote out but to no avail it seems.
Also shoutout to @Sunshine@piefed.ca you did your part, I can tell you were a Greens supporter but I won’t blame you or be snarky because you recognized the difference and helped try to turn things around despite the BCNDP’s bad snap election decision.
I wish leftists were as consistent at voting as conservatives. It doesn’t seem to matter where you live, the hateful asshole vote is nearly guaranteed but any disagreement will cause their opposition to stay home
the progressive purity test…cons don’t do that. Gun nuts…i don’t care about the rest of the policies. Against SOGI…i don’t care about the rest of policies. Progressives…i don’t like what you said about Israel 12 years ago I’m not voting
Stop letting people over 50 vote. Boom problem solved. Outdated people with outdated views and outdated opinions have no business picking how the current generation and the next one do things.
The last sentence was 100% sarcasm but you can find opinions that effectively say the stuff above that, within this thread and in the BritishColumbia lemmy community here and there over the last months.
Oh goodness. I felt that they were the one provincial government who put up a fight against environmental destruction.
Quebec was also against pipelines but for their own self interest and they have also had a change in government. I’m not sure where they stand now.
Nope, many would-be supporters (I’m not just talking greens, I’m talking NDP too) said the BCNDP wasn’t good enough, super liberal, destroying the environment because they compromised on a southern pipeline expansion to avoid a northern lng project and somehow fighting against indigenous rights on behalf of the Musqueam in the Cowichan case. So, here we are, welcome to the government of BC’s dreams, principles and conscience.
So you’re blaming the voters who went Green rather than the party that should be reading the room and shifting to where the voters are if they want their votes?
No I’m not. I saw the diagram in this post:
https://mastodon.social/@GarrickWinter/117502400402320684
A first order estimation, take 275k ndp voters that chose not to vote, subtract 23k new green voters that could have moved from ndp (so excluding them from blame), it’s around 250k people that sat it out for the ndp I’m blaming for this the most giving the Conservatives the win.
Green splitting is a reality, particularly on Vancouver island but it’s the same as every FPTP election. It’s not the fact people voted for greens that I blame them for. It’s the promotion of the idea that BCNDP and Conservatives are no different, which helps depress turnout, rather than a yes/and. We’re about to see very clearly what the difference is. I tried to get the vote out but to no avail it seems.
Also shoutout to @Sunshine@piefed.ca you did your part, I can tell you were a Greens supporter but I won’t blame you or be snarky because you recognized the difference and helped try to turn things around despite the BCNDP’s bad snap election decision.
I wish leftists were as consistent at voting as conservatives. It doesn’t seem to matter where you live, the hateful asshole vote is nearly guaranteed but any disagreement will cause their opposition to stay home
the progressive purity test…cons don’t do that. Gun nuts…i don’t care about the rest of the policies. Against SOGI…i don’t care about the rest of policies. Progressives…i don’t like what you said about Israel 12 years ago I’m not voting
Conservatives seem more willing to hold their noses and work with allies they dislike if it gets them what they want.
And until progressives do the same they are going to have trouble winning
The conservatives hadn’t won in 100 years. That’s at least, somewhat consistent
100%
Stop letting people over 50 vote. Boom problem solved. Outdated people with outdated views and outdated opinions have no business picking how the current generation and the next one do things.
Seniors are now more left wing than right wing.
Wow. Legitimately thanks for clarifying, I actually really appreciate it.
I don’t know if I’m missing sarcasm here? Or maybe I know fuck all about the BC conservative party (definitely true).
The last sentence was 100% sarcasm but you can find opinions that effectively say the stuff above that, within this thread and in the BritishColumbia lemmy community here and there over the last months.