Congrats Toronto, proud of this city right now. Olivia’s double digit lead over Bradford is truly amazing, especially since the polls were too close for comfort. I’m extra proud of the strong grassroots efforts that made this happen
Hilariously, Bradford’s own ward went 2:1 for Olivia, making him the biggest loser of the night 😂
I didn’t see it as the first and only comment, so I didn’t get the same impression or reading as you.
I also don’t find your example absurd at all. It’s purely your assumption that such examples never happen in real life.
Your entire tone comes across pretentious, presumptuous and hostile. I’m glad most of the country doesn’t think or act like you.
Dude’s dead and still adored in the country he served all his life.I highly doubt Olivia Chow will see it as an attack on her accomplishments just because people still remember her dead husband.
There people who do diminish a woman’s personal accomplishments by assigning the credit of her success to her husband. I don’t think it’s as rampant and pervasive as you’re implying.
Nobody in Toronto voted for her because of the dead guy who’s last name she didn’t take as is the norm in traditional western christian marriages. She got elected as the mayor of the Centre of the Universe on merit. Twice.
Here’s you:
Also you:
You might want to re-evaluate just who’s being hostile here. I’ll own the pretentious label though. I’m not trying to come off that way, but I’ve been told that my writing can sometimes read like that.
I have been to funerals for women, funerals where they highlight at the funeral the accomplishments of the woman’s dead husband. This sort of sexism is far more common than you appear to believe. The fact that you jumped to the accomplishments of Chow’s long-dead husband in the face of her monumental current achievements is, whether you want to acknowledge it or not, sexism. Had you diminished her achievements and compared them to Layton’s that’d be sexist too — worse really — but that doesn’t make your initial comment any better.
I get it, nobody likes it when people point out something you’ve done as shitty. It’s especially bad when you don’t think the label fits because you don’t recognise what you’ve said as terrible, and the intent wasn’t there. But that’s how this stuff works, it’s why sexism is systemic rather than explicit. It’s the water we’re swimming in and it’s often not easy to recognise.
I get that you weren’t trying to be shitty here, but you said a shitty thing. Maybe you don’t see it yet, but I’m hoping that this will at least start you on the path to getting you there some day.
At what fucking point did a comment about her husband diminish one iota of her success? Is that a risk in your world, and all it says about your respect for women?
Holy fuck.
Are you feeling okay? Intoxicated or just angry?
Or genuinely honest mistake and replied to the wrong person, quoting something I never said…
Yes, shifty people like that do exist who refuse to give women their rightful credit as individuals. I’m not one of those people.
Oh yeah, totally my bad. I hadn’t realised that there were three people in this thread! I’m not intoxicated, though I am quite tired. I’m signing off on this whole thread now.
Hope you have a restful and good night.