Should literally be illegal to sell a game for this long while it’s still in goddamn alpha.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA
I wonder for how many more years people will continue to not only accept that scam but also wholeheartedly defending it.
such as procedural world-building
So no longer “it takes time to build planets”? Just slap on some algorithmic generation and call it a day?
I’m not really defending the game, but i bought a ship like a decade ago during a kickstarter promo or something. I “played” the game maybe once a year ever since then. I got my money out of it a long time ago. The game isn’t great. It’s probably not even good, but i have never seen anytging like it. It looks insane, (runs rather poor) the space flight sim part is fantastic. The ship detail is something that hasn’t been there before and will never been seen again. (Makes sense, since that’s where their money goes). People are really nice in the game, and i had the best interactions i ever had in any game.
Long story short, i hate what happens to a game that i generally like, and the idea behind it. The amount of money put into is bizzare. On the other hand, there are “real” scam games, that made 250 million dollars and are genuinely just unreal engine 5 assets scattered around, with no game in sight, and generally people don’t talk about it the same way they talk about star citizen.
I really don’t see it as a scam. I think I paid $30 for the game and they’re continuing to develop it. I’ve played it a bit and while it definitely feels unfinished, I’d say they’re certainly onto something, it has serious potential to turn into something cool.
such as procedural world-building
So no longer “it takes time to build planets”? Just slap on some algorithmic generation and call it a day?
So one thing to mention here, these planets exist at a nearly realistic scale, most a have about a 2000 km diameter, which puts their surface area around 12,600,000 square km. You can’t sculpt every inch of that by hand and make it look good, you just can’t. At some point you need to leverage procedural methods to fill in the space between crafted areas.
The “scam” thing is just a meme people repeat because they think it’s important to have an opinion about SC and that’s the only one they’ve ever heard. And yeah, it really doesn’t make any sense. There so many actual valid things you could criticize about the game and the company making it. I could make you a list but we’d be here all day.
But objectively, scam is literally the only complaint that is instantly disprovable, because you can log in and play the game and see that they put the work into it. It’s a buggy mess, they desperately need a proper UX lead, the project is atrociously mismanaged, but like… They did the work. As a scam, it would be the worst scam in history; you’re supposed to run away with the money, not actually spend it making a game.
There is no possible way the majority of the money is going into the game. It’s simply not plausible.
And moreover both things can be true, it can be a scam where the leadership is pocketing most of the money and also a decent game locked in production forever simply to make more money.
As a scam, it would be the worst scam in history; you’re supposed to run away with the money, not actually spend it making a game.
I think you nailed it right there. That’s the thing.
They are making a game. And as long as people keep supporting that effort, they’re gonna keep doing it. I think that’s pretty straight forward!
Planets have been in the game for years and years and have always been a mix of proc gen and artist crafted stuff. Also the proc gen of the newer planets is the best I’ve ever seen.
Horribly managed, shitty company taking on more than they can chew lead by a guy who might as well be a cult leader, sure. But you can’t call SC a scam.
You’d think they’d have caught wind of something when they introduced purchasable ships. And most notably their pricing.
And you don’t even own the ship, as usual you just own a licence to use it.
Weren’t those in since the very beginning?
They were. The Kickstarter ran entirely on selling ship packages. Basically the different tiers were just “… and what ship would you like with your copy of the game.”
Were they? Honestly, I don’t remember lmao, it’s been such a long time
They were, though the details have changed several times to encourage fomo and other dark patterns to encourage silly purchases
I couldn’t care less how many features get added at this point. If the game still plays like shit, it’s not fun. Quit a long time ago because of this. I got so sick of how disconnected you feel from the UI / game. It constantly drops inputs, fails to register anything, crashes, just an abysmal online experience.
The game is also a huge mess with identity crisis and no clear direction. Not to mention the big mismanagement issues and toxic workspace. Been following the development of this game for years and despite the potential and accomplishments the management doesn’t make it seem like the game has a bright future. Recently I’ve encountered news that they banned trading ships between users because they don’t make money from it when years before it was advertised that the ships you buy now you can trade with others later so it’s not a waste of money. Lmao
