Noooooooo!!!
Let’s not be too hasty, folks!

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    Yeah, I’m gonna need to see at minimum a new president, and some major changes to ICE before I even consider it. It’s still very much the Wild West down there, as far as I’m concerned.

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      Changes to ICE? My friend, we need to abolish ICE entirely and imprison the evil motherfuckers. At minimum.

      As long as conservatives have any amount of authority here, no one is safe. Hold us to the highest standard of anti-fascism before you trust us again.

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        I mean, ICE itself was founded in 2003, the concept of some immigration enforcement existing isn’t crazy. And by changes I meant that it should get the regulatory oversight it should’ve received back then, a lot of these absurd immunities have existed for 20+ years and just never been so flagrantly abused, and the grand majority of its leadership (and a ton of its membership) should face legal consequences for what they’ve done, the laws they’ve flaunted, and the powers they’ve abused.

        Really though, you’re probably right, it may be better to abolish the institution and try again from scratch. I don’t think much of anyone wants to see an ICE logo or officer ever again, and it might be easier to rip up the whole tree rather than try to prune it.

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          We were just fine for many generations without them existing at all. We just don’t need an agency that can be so easily turned into a private army for conservative fascists and bigots.

          Also, we need to demonstrate accountability at the highest level if we are ever to be trusted again.

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            We had INS before that. The job function still existed. It just got moved under DHS and they went full fascist at that point.