your game is not on your disk! Your game is downloaded after you insert your disk.

I have seen this being mentioned a few times. I wonder what those games are, or whether people are exaggerating for hyperbole.

I own physical copies of PS5 exclusives that I play without signing in to PSN. Most recently, I played the director’s cut of Ghost of Tsushima this way. I used to do the same on my PS4 too.

You are still arguing against a position I never took.

I never disputed why companies are pushing digital. I disputed the idea that losing physical media is not a loss for consumers. Rights like resale, lending, ownership independent of a single account, and preservation do not stop to matter because digital is more popular.

It’s a business.

That is an explanation for why companies make these decisions, not a defence of them. By that logic, any reduction in consumer rights would be acceptable so long as it increases profits. I don’t think that is a particularly compelling standard.

We are discussing two different questions: you are defending the business incentive, while I am discussing the consumer trade-offs. There is nothing more to add, so I will leave it at that.

You are arguing against points I did not make. Do not confuse consumer preference with consumer rights.

The fact that most people buy digitally does not magically eliminate the benefits of physical media: resale, lending, collecting, and not tying every purchase to a single account or storefront. That is especially relevant on consoles, where you don’t have the competitive marketplace that exists on PC. Comparing Steam to PlayStation as though they are equivalent ecosystems ignores the very thing being discussed.

You went from making weak arguments to inventing facts. “No one is sharing games” goes against the used games market as well as game lending. As earlier, your point about Gran Turismo is just an anecdote dressed up as a general principle.

And your last paragraph is a joke. If you have to speculate and invent my position instead of addressing it, that is a sign your rebuttal is weak, just like your original comment.

You seem to be hung on that one example and have made a whole argument supported by it.

One does own their games on disc.

I can still play using my physical copies after all these years, regardless of whether I am logged into PSN or if I am playing it on a PS4 or a PS5.

You indeed failed to see the issue.

It is not really wise to compare Steam with the console ecosystem, especially when there exists several alternatives to obtain games on PC.

Physical discs matter more on consoles than on PCs, given that there is not a whole lot one can do if their account gets banned for the silliest of reasons, or if one wants to share a game.

Also, have you thought that you might be referring to two different sets of customers: one that is fine with digital purchases on Steam/PSN, and the other that strongly supports physical purchases?

Using a single example of GT is insufficient to make a broad statement like the one you made.

Points and passes are the same. 1000 points are equivalent to 1000 passes.

Thank you for responding, and for introducing me to Floccus.

After reading the README and watching the videos therein, this feels like a nice piece of software and well thought out. Thank you for developing it. I am going to try it out tomorrow.

In the meantime, what are your thoughts on tackling bookmarks on mobile?

Asking since many bookmark-worthy links are often shared via phone chats, at least in my experience. I would love to manage, or at least put those with the rest of my bookmarks on other machines.

While moving to the current generation, I did give Xbox Series X an honest consideration. But the games catalogue made me choose PS5 over it once again.

In hindsight, especially after owning a Steam Deck, I am glad I stuck with PlayStation.

Its almost as bad as playing on the wrong invert y setting.

Yikes! I never thought about controller layouts in this way.

I have never used Xbox controllers so I can’t speak for their ergonomics or ease of use.

But I definitely find the DualSense controller to be more aesthetically appealing, partly due to its symmetry, and I have to admit, as silly as it sounds, that it was the second most important factor when purchasing PS4 Pro more than a decade ago.

The first most important factor being the games catalogue.

Every time I read any Xbox news, I immediately remember the email that Phil Spencer sent to Satya Nadella when PS5 was announced. The email gets funnier as the days go by, and as additional context gets added in the form of news like the OP.

Inserting below part of the email thread that I like the most:

Even as I type this I know I shouldn’t but I can’t help myself.

We’ve all lived with 7 years of starting off a generation with a price and performance (and messaging)disadvantage to PS4 with Xbox One. I have to admit this morning when I woke up knowing the PS5 reveal was today that the stress level was higher than normal. Now after almost 12 hours of soaking in their unveil, taking apart their specs and looking at the community responses I just wanted to say that I’m proud of our team.

We have a better product than Sony does, not just on hardware but equally important on the software platform and services on top of the hardware. We have the ingredients of a winning plan. I felt the feedback from the BoD discussion on being too confident and maybe this will just reinforce that perception, I get the need to be humbly confident but today was a good day for us.

We haven’t won anything. And I know we have hard discussion about pricing, P&L, investments etc. This mail isn’t trying to scoop any of that, those discussions really matter. But we can take confidence in our product truth hereand I do believe any conversation needs to start with believing in that. This was a good day for Xbox.

Thanks for indulging me.

Phil

I just pulled the feed for the first time after reading your post, and the content is like you describe. A pity as I liked what I saw on the website.

I may try the workaround and see if it helps.

Indeed it is. :-)

Also, your comment made me realise that I mistyped asses in my original comment!

Going to leave it there for the sweet sweet irony. :D

I am an ardent believer in it, given how many times it has saved our assets at work, often to the point of annoying people. That said, I usually end up being right for insisting on more time and/or data, so it’s all good.

However, my spoonerific brain always gets this twisted to “measure once, cut twice”.

I unknowingly wrote this once in a comment about asking for more metrics during a design review.

My colleague (the author of said design document) replied with the relevant metrics and a comment saying “measure never, cut forever”. :D

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