Salah [ey/em]

The point is that gender is not binary and that there will always be people who will get excluded for no reason when you try to define a boundary for exclusion.

You sound like a terf.

I’m speaking of my experience of being trans nonbinary and having been discriminated against under the guise of gender exclusive spaces. Cis women have a long history of excluding trans and nonbinary people from ‘women only’ spaces so excuse me for being sceptical of the concept.

Not all women will be at feminist spaces for women’s protection either so it’s important to remove people from a safe space whenever they make the space unsafe. I’m open to the idea of women only spaces if they serve a function but in practice the most common function I have seen them be used as is for enforcing gender norms and excluding trans and nonbinary people.

Most queer spaces make a point to not police on queerness because queer people get excluded so often from gender exclusive spaces. Policing on ideology prevents that issue entirely and doesn’t make the space less safe. It actually makes the space safer of it.

I’d also say that there wasn’t an issue with men only space to discuss testicular cancer, say.

Why wouldn’t trans women be welcome at such spaces?

Can you give an example for when those safe spaces add more value than for example making it a feminist only space where feminist men are welcome as well? In my experience feminists spaces attract very few men anyways.

Doesn’t have to be transphobic. It’s only suspicious within a pattern of behaviour in which your bf seemingly doesn’t see you as for who you are.

I have no idea about the context