Interprovince and EU trade is awesome, but the key for Canada is to diversify internal investment and trade away from “US National Security” control, that gives US authority to declare who Canada’s enemies are. China investment in Canada, perhaps with processing /manufacturing facilities in addition to resource extraction would be a big economic boom. Chinese and Russian trade is better than excluding them.

The big danger from US extortion is destroying Canada’s auto sector. Canada has extremely high subsidies for that sector, that should be looked at if our foreign owned domestic industry starts/threatens to back away from Canada as a result of US extortion. Importing EVs from China can enhance Canadian standards of living, but some assembly work, or just importing motors and batteries can make Canadian made vehicles competitive in US even with tariffs, and affordable in Canada.

Cowering together in the “abused wives club” of Europe and Ukraine is not the best strategy when normalized relations with countries that can stand up to the US is necessary to fend of war from US.

Economic power together is enhanced We’ve been doing this already, as two separate sovereign nations. Assholes turned it against us. You know, you read the news.

Current red states are parasitic to US as a whole. Military budget and insurance industries too. Canada’s economy is controlled as a junior partner that gives US veto over resource project funding from China or other US geopolitical foes, and embarrassing copying of tariffs on China without even consulting China. Trump BS was happening on a slower basis anyway, and a bigger Canada means better resistance to US coercion.

Canadians would be taxed like crazy to help pay that off.

The US is on a clear path to collapse, just from this debt. That is bad for Canada too, but in a way the collapse just means defaulting on debt, and banks/insurance going bankrupt. The oligarchy in US means as the country collapses, the ones who are saved are banksters, weapon makers, and tech. Secession of states, and joining Canada, can make both existing Canada and those states stronger

Most Canadians would love the idea of states joining us. They wouldn’t even refuse solidly red states, I think. It would make Canada stronger, and a better life for the states. Economic power together is enhanced. Canada even as 10 states instead of 1, doesn’t work because US debt is too high, and US simply has too harsh of a society meant for oligarchy. Healthcare would be a major issue.

Went to Cuba last week. Absolutely magical, 3-5x the value, and the country needs the support. 95%+ Canadians, and no Americans.

I understand the “Quebec community” support/appeal, but its supporting the US too. A firm no for me.

It’s confusing times. If there was ever a movement in support of US territorial subservience, a Quebec referendum is probably more likely, and one where secession before annexation has clearer legal path. I understand their current support for Canada.