I’ve thought of all these, but what I’m describing should be a comprehensive system in itself and at the same time have global identities and addressing of all content, so that data model could be applied, for example, for a sneakernet or for some situation where you’d have to synchronize data over delay-tolerant networks.

Most of all like Briar or Usenet or something else.

I would say the future is in pooling resources.

Like it happens with torrents. As one p2p protocol very successful.

Self-hosting not applications, but storage and uniform services. Let different user applications use the same pooled storage and services.

All services are ultimately storage, computation, relays, search&indexing and trackers. So if there’s a way to contribute storage, computing resources, search and relay nodes by announcing them via trackers (suppose), then one can make any global networked application using that.

But I’m still thinking how can that even work. What I’m dreaming of is just year 2000 Internet (with FTP, e-mail, IRC, search engines), except simplified and made for machines, with the end result being represented to user by a local application. There should be some way to pay for resources in a uniform way, and reputation of resources (not too good if someone can make a storage service, collect payment, get a “store” request and then just take it offline), or it won’t work.

And global cryptographic identities.

Not like Fediverse in the end, more like NOSTR.

the oligarchy as it currently stands precedes the capitalist state as we know it today. some of them even come from the very same families, like they are fucking kings (they are)

I mean, these are terms with vague borders - oligarchy, feudalism, capitalism …

About same families - I guess in France/Italy/Germany or in Japan maybe.

and that’s nothing, if you consider feudalism lasted even longer

Same problem. Arguably in Britain a lot of it still lasts, and in Germany.

OK. So my point was specifically about modern regress and tech corporations. Not all of history.

That “treated like a utility” approach involves reliance upon the state, which is sometimes controlled by the hostile parties. This is what I don’t like in Internet political discussions, such solutions feel as if they assumed that you make it good once and it remains good.

yes that’s precisely what i implied, because they control it in the first place. companies like amazon are more powerful than nation states, and they exercise that power.

And I’m trying to say that the state helping them was first.

this has been the capitalist state’s modus operandi for more than 100-200 years. and the oligarch’s power precede it, they shaped it that way back then.

Not really. Every month, year, decade is different.

aaron schwartz was literally just a dude, not remotely comparable to oligarchs.

He had the right ideas of how to solve one particular industry which is the spearhead of barbarism. And he somehow committed suicide in jail.

I think it’s the other way around. See, hosting a service on the Internet carries some obligations.

The state treats them so that those are much easier to fulfill for these platforms.

The state gives them very expensive projects.

The state kills Aaron Schwartz, purely coincidentally also the author of the RSS standard. That thing that comes the closest to a uniform way of aggregating the Web, which would kill a lot of what platforms provide.

The state makes some of their products standard for the state, making those commercial things necessary to interact with the state.

So, the state does a lot to give them that monopoly in the first place.

Yes, because without one government that was helping them out, punishing their competition and funding them, also making regulations convenient for them, Alphabet, Meta and others would be even more powerful. /s

Power finds a way, so I wouldn’t hope for nationalization itself to be anything good.

Maybe the idea of BTC was fine. What wasn’t fine is the idea of mining.

And maybe payments over the Internet or over PSTN are fundamentally different from messaging, conferencing, downloading files, all that stuff.

But what’s important is the ability to pay for a service with something resembling cash IRL in the sense that an ATM machine from which you took that cash can’t take it back because you are paying for an adult journal with it.

But at the same time how can there be so few payment processors that they can affect a platform’s decision to do a kind of business?

That’s where we should look. Why is it hard to be a payment processor.

It’s as if all the wrong people got more money that they can use for asswipes in all their life in paper form, and don’t know what to do with it all.

So stupid. I mean, why does Putin need to capture Ukraine or parts of it? Why does Trump need this? What the hell.

Could have built a few Dubai mockups if that’s their ceiling, actually that seems above their ceiling.

Well, I live in Russia, but I’ve read there were changes about taxes calculation logic for people of low enough income too. Maybe they are smiling about that?

It’s still funny how the supposed problem of US state debt going is apparently not a problem when it’s your side inflating it beyond the year 1946 record against GDP. Or so they say.

BTW, when people say that US state debt is being misinterpreted and it’s not a problem, - basically any country’s state debt is, until it isn’t. That would work like, well, loss of trust into US ability to support the debt, which means loss of the value of USD, which together may form a positive feedback loop. Not hard to see that if such thing were to happen, you’d have rapid inflation and probably default.

(Also maybe that talk about bringing production back to USA, Musk’s political ideas and funding for military structures, all that stuff, are being done in preparation for the inevitable, - it’s technically possible to avoid it, but politically may not be, cause both main sides just promise more spending to own the other side. Because their plans that don’t make sense now look kinda better in a hypothetical scenario of post-default USA. It’ll still have enormous human capital, and its economic situation would allow to use that for building industries anew.)

And that’s good.

If you’re not capable of taking proper care of your pet, don’t get a pet in the first place. Picking up the shit your dog left in a public place is part of owning a dog.

So you never ever think you took 3 waste bags when you took 1? Nothing ever falls out of your pocket? Forgetting something is “not being capable of taking proper care”?

Or maybe you are simply not capable of reading before answering. That’s typical for people without ASD.

If your kid has a baseball game the next day, don’t go drinking today. That’s the selfish part. Although I would argue if you do get drunk, you kind of just have to deal with it and go to your kids game regardless.

I don’t drink.

or pick up your dog’s shit, then that’s selfish

If you didn’t notice that you have only one waste bag, and your dog had a need in more than one place, and you’ll be late for something, and in addition to that generally have a bad sense of time and place (ASD definitely, BAD or ADHD probably), then it’s not.

It’s not anywhere near the same category as being too burnt out to do the dishes after a double shift

Imagine that sometimes people wake up this tired. Someone left an electric light on outside and you can’t force yourself to cover the window - bad sleep. Forgot to drink some water before falling asleep - bad sleep. Ate something salty in addition to that - horrible sleep.

If you have roommates and you left dishes in the sink, you are being selfish.

Suppose so.

If your kids have an early baseball game, and you are too hungover to show up, then you’re being selfish.

Hangover is a bad feeling.

Not returning a cart should be punished with crucifixion though.