A war would be disastrous for both countries. Especially the US.

As President Donald Trump relentlessly threatens to annex Canada, some Canadians are worried that an American invasion could one day become a reality.

How would that scenario play out? Looking at the sheer size of the American military, many people might believe that Trump would enjoy an easy victory.

That analysis is wrong. If Trump ever decides to use military force to annex Canada, the result would not be determined by a conventional military confrontation between the Canadian and American armies. Rather, a military invasion of Canada would trigger a decades-long violent resistance, which would ultimately destroy the United States.

But in this nightmare scenario, could Canadians successfully resist an American invasion? Absolutely. I know this because I have studied insurgencies around the world for more than two decades, and I have spent time with ordinary people who have fought against powerful invading armies.

    • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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      That was Trump v. The American legal system.

      If it comes to a head on confrontation; it’d be Trump v. Canada in gorilla warfare. We’ll bring our own justice, and probably add a few more pages to the Geneva Conventions while we’re at it. We’re good at that.

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    First he’d need to convince the army to follow his orders. It’s a lot harder to paint Canadians as “evil minorities” in order to get the rank and file to “just follow orders”.

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      We’ve seen it happen 1000s of times in history. Soldiers do as their told. If Trump says invade, it will happen. They are purging any internal resistance as we speak do in a few months, if he says invade we will get invaded.

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    If you think about it, all we have to do is each Canadian has to eliminate 10 Americans. Not necessarily kill, just remove from combat. That can be through befriending so they stop fighting, incapacitating through a biological agent against which, as Canadians we have been vaccinated, diverting to another enemy, or actually taking out. And really, we’d only have to target the white combatants, the way they’re going nowadays.

    Facetiousness aside, I agree with your point. And thanks for sharing. What we probably have to watch out for is thd cultural warfare that recruits Canadians against Canada.

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    The US would initially run over Canada. Let there be no mistake there, it always does. Saying this as a proud almost Canadian, this US armed forces will overwhelm any country in the world.

    Having said that.

    The US hasn’t won a single war since WWII. It’ll overwhelm whatever country it invades and then inevitably gets it’s ass kicked from here and back to the US again. Anyone remember Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq?

    If the US decides to invade Canada, it will sign it’s own death certificate.

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    Yep, people will fight hard to defend against a foreign invasion. We’re seeing it with Russia and Ukraine right now.

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    Resistance is not futile, the USA has not prevailed (single-handedly) against resistance movements in any country of our size in their history. IEDs are cheap, effective, and relatively easy to make. Canada has farms with fuel oil and fertilizer, and lots of firearms.

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      I have always been a peaceful and patient person, but there is no way I’m letting a fascist foreign government take over. I would gladly even suicide bomb a foreign invader if it thrwarted their advance and protected my adult kids , and fellow country members, future.

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          Who’s radicalizing? There’s no US invaders on Canadian soil, what are we radicalizing against?

          A fascist takeover of Canada would inevitably result in a guerilla war. This is just a fact.

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    This is a hopeful expression,but it’s written from a dreamers perspective.

    Canadian civilians don’t know what this means. Canadians don’t have a culture of resistance, there is only a dream that rights and values are immutable.

    Compare that to the Finnish, or to the Baltics. Ask a Finn what they will do when the Russians come, and you will get a detailed response, with both vigor and realism. Balts will either stand or falter, but with a true understanding of the reality of their situation. Those people have been defending their sovereignty for decades - like the Ukrainians.

    I’d love to see the Canucks resist, like I’d l9ve to see the Yanks hold … but they haven’t even seen the examples of Belarus and Hungary- they don’t even u.dersrand what they are fighting.

    In a fight, the Americans will roll in and take Toronto, and Montreal, they’ll bomb a few bases, they’ll blockade Victoria and Vancouver and the block the passes, then they’ll blockade the Eastern shipping lanes. The prairies will cheer, poorly treated migrants will shrug, sofa warriors will fizzle … them what is left? US supply routes will be stable and simple, and they’ll attack without risk. What can guerilla tactics do in that scenario?

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      Canada is five large cities, which are easy to capture, and an entire USSR-size back-country of rough terrain, which would be nearly impossible to patrol and hold in the face of even a mildly resentful populace. You don’t have to have the entire population actively fighting - passive resistance would make it difficult to do anything in the face of shrugs and "I dunno"s.

      Resistance fighting can be picked up pretty fast, and in the face of brutal American reprisals and repression, I think it would be. Their history in Afghanistan and Vietnam shows that they’d create an entire generation of people out for revenge VERY quickly.

      We would hide our insurgents, and they would fade into the mountains and forests. You don’t need a lot of active insurgents to cause a huge problem.

      We have cheap drones and abundant weapons. We’re one of the more gun-infested countries per capita, and have a porous border with the USA.

      It’d be a hell on Earth. They’d never hold the Rockies.

      Resource extraction operations. Forestry and mining are easy to disrupt, especially if the local labour doesn’t like the occupiers. There are a thousand ways to gum up the works, and a thousand more to attack them and fade away into the surrounding forest.