• pilferjinx@piefed.social
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    6 days ago

    We would fold extremely fast. We don’t have an independent infrastructure to wait out the US like Afghanistan and Iraq. What we do need is fucking nukes.

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      6 days ago

      It’s not about taking the territory, it’s about keeping it.

      Canada’s advantage is that the resource investment to hold capture our mineral and oil resources isn’t worth the necessary human and economic costs.

      You have a country full of angry people that look like the average American and speak the same language. That’s a guerrilla warfare disaster waiting to happen, and the US generals whose literal job is to consider this have sad as much.

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        6 days ago

        We’re so much alike that Canadian integration would be less painful than to resist and struggle. I don’t have the faith we’d hold out for long, especially when it comes to our politicians and form a Canadian Dream party.

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          I have more faith in the average Canadian to do what’s right than in our elected officials. The travel and liquor boycotts and the new produce options at the grocery store speak to the average person’s elbows up mentality. We are meek-mannered and polite but we can also be extremely petty and we can hold grudges for a very long time.

          We will not fold willingly into a vassal relationship, even if they get a PM or Premier to endorse the move.

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            Aren’t we already a vassal state? Sure we are “apposing” American produce well shopping at Walmart and Costco. Eating at resturants owned by American companies, going to our national parks were all attractions are owned by American companies, using American tech. I mean the list goes on and on.

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              5 days ago

              We are not supplying our troops to fight for the US across the globe (NATO obligations aside.) We have free elections. We are free to set our own social welfare policies. While we can always strive more for additional separations and greater sovereignty there is a lot further to fall if we don’t learn lessons from around the world.

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          6 days ago

          Canada would hold out forever, even if the government fell in 6 hours.

          30 percent of Canadians would fold instantly, maybe even be happy.

          30 percent of Canadians would be very unhappy, and at least tolerate to even mildly assist in a resistance, but would take very little risk themselves.

          The rest would form an active resistance and a good chunk of that would propagate generations of if it had to. It would be extremely expensive to maintain any infrastructure outside of Canadian cities. And even the cities would see regular sabotage.

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      6 days ago

      The formal army wouldn’t last too long, but imagine what an insurgency would look like.

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      6 days ago

      We are tied to tightly to the USA, with auto sector etc, but Canada has a ton of resources we ship to the USA we just need new trade partners

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        5 days ago

        But there isn’t anyone who can replace America. They are two big. Sure we should diversify but we can’t replace America.

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          We already are making deals direct to mexico and plans with Europe and China. If the USA continues on this illegal war path we will have to replace them… with the help of the world.

          USA exists by extorting other peoples resources. If people stopped dealing with them totally they would struggle