• SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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    My money is on Greenland in 2026. That land is small enough that America could conceivably take the whole place in one bite. Trump is a bully: he likes little people who are isolated, because he can violate them easily.

    Canada and Mexico are large enough, that they can actually punch back and give the bully a bloody nose.

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      Taking greenland would help surround Canada and could be useful in intercepting shipping and flights from Europe if America did want to annex Canada.

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      Especially Canada. Could you imagine trying to secure the world’s largest land border, when it’s so easy for partisans to blend in and pass as locals? The terrorism would be off the charts. Especially if the Canadian government starts giving people access to military explosives and arms?

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        The way ICE is, just about anyone can claim to be a member of ICE and do whatever they feel like. If other nations decide to do stuff on American soil, they will have carte blanch to do as they will.

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    The tepid response from other major powers will just embolened Trumpie.

    The whole reason of invading Venezuela was about “narotics”. The same thing that Trumpie has been railing on the past about Canada and Mexico.

    Venezuela was just a test case.

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    The Ukraine War was the entire world’s wake up call to aquire nuclear weapons. International law, treaties, agreements, negotiations are 10,000% entirely worthless when it comes to the human race. Past, present, and future.

    We never were civilized. Arm up buttercup

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    This time America invaded a smaller, weaker, and more or less isolated country, and kidnapped a not exactly liked dictator. It was a safe choice, and a test to see what the global reaction is. Though I’m sure the profits from Venezuela’s oil will help recover from post-AI bubble recession.

    Judging from the reactions, the operation was a major success. Next, the empire will attack a bigger, stronger and less isolated country, and kidnap its democratically elected president. Let’s see how many times it can repeat this process. I’d rather not, but it looks like that’s where we’re going.

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      I don’t even know what oil profits there will be. It’ll cost tens of billions to refurbish the Venezuelan oil industry and while their oil reserves are massive, they’re also extremely low quality and cost more to refine. And to what end? The US is a net oil exporter. Flooding the market with cheap Venezuelan oil will just crash the price and fuck up the domestic oil market.

      Which I guess is the point, if the goal is to ultimately internally destabilize the US to allow tech bro feudalism to take over?

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        There’s refineries in the US that are geared up for processing Canadian heavy oil.

        The Venezuelan oil is supposedly similar, and cheaper to ship to those refineries.

        Canada has a few years left of shipping this oil to those refineries until the oil companies get in and kickstart the Venezuelan production.

        I don’t think they’re going to flood the market with cheaper oil… instead they’ll maim the Canadian industry

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    Plenty of drugs come into Canada as well. Just look at the core of any town or city in Canada and you’ll see the decay.

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    Large quantities of highly addictive lichen are now being imported illegally from Greenland. /s

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    Don’t be daft he has regime changes in Cuba and Nicaragua to get to first. Mexico will just get increasing surgical strikes.

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    I dare him to invade Canada. Not so easy when its a white nation and people actually care

    Edit: this was sarcasm. Nobody cares when America bullies a nation of brown people, they do it all the time.

    Also I look a lot more like Maduro than I do Trump if that helps

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      What does “white nation” have anything to do with it? Sounds like you definitely own a pointy white hat.

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        They phrased it terribly but I think their point was that it’s easy for Americans to shrug off their illegal occupation of Venezuela, but when its closer to home and against a country that looks and speaks the same way they do, Americans might actually complain. But I don’t even know at this point considering most Americans seem incapable of fighting back against their government

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          Yes most Americans are racist against brown people, but knowing us we could really easily be very racist towards Canadians too.

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            I’ve got a friend who’s a dual citizen of the US and Canada, white, had his brown, Canadian girlfriend with him, drove down to NYC with a Canadian license plate, and on their way back, some truck driver on country roads was giving him a hard time and flipping him fingers. Not sure if the truck driver saw the brown girlfriend, but I’d say it’s beyond racist at this point; just dumb nationalists.

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            Yes most Americans are racist against brown people,

            Most Americans are as dumb as a brick but will be the first to tell you they’re the smartest mother fucker in the room.

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              Ya see it’s my lack of education that keeps my mind uncucumbered by the liberal lies, and able to think freely enough to hate anyone I’m told to instantly.

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            Problem is those same Americans are perfectly happy with deploying the National Guard to cities like Portland, DC, and Chicago.

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            They’re just too kind, right fellow American? And what’s with the cheese curds and gravy in FREEDOM fries, amirite?!?

            /s

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        Because it’s one thing to annex a country with people who may look visibly different to average Americans.

        But when you try and annex a country that looks very much the same, resistance will be everywhere and invisible.

        That guy working next to Americans in the critical infrastructure project? Ya, he’s Canadian and pissed so he’s gonna do something about it.

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        Yeah my bad it was sarcastic. Canada has urged “all parties” to respect international law" after America has invaded a sovereign nation because Canadians love racism.

        I really just meant that the status quo is not challenged by America invading a ‘brown’ country but a long time ally with close ties to other western countries? Thats a harder sell.

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        Half of Canada already thinks we are American. They know more American rights and laws then they do Canadian.

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        Check yer stats, even in Alaberta it’s only about 15% or so.

        Probably a big difference between Lloydminster and Windsor.

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      We would fold extremely fast. We don’t have an independent infrastructure to wait out the US like Afghanistan and Iraq. What we do need is fucking nukes.

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        It’s not about taking the territory, it’s about keeping it.

        Canada’s advantage is that the resource investment to hold capture our mineral and oil resources isn’t worth the necessary human and economic costs.

        You have a country full of angry people that look like the average American and speak the same language. That’s a guerrilla warfare disaster waiting to happen, and the US generals whose literal job is to consider this have sad as much.

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          We’re so much alike that Canadian integration would be less painful than to resist and struggle. I don’t have the faith we’d hold out for long, especially when it comes to our politicians and form a Canadian Dream party.

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            I have more faith in the average Canadian to do what’s right than in our elected officials. The travel and liquor boycotts and the new produce options at the grocery store speak to the average person’s elbows up mentality. We are meek-mannered and polite but we can also be extremely petty and we can hold grudges for a very long time.

            We will not fold willingly into a vassal relationship, even if they get a PM or Premier to endorse the move.

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              Aren’t we already a vassal state? Sure we are “apposing” American produce well shopping at Walmart and Costco. Eating at resturants owned by American companies, going to our national parks were all attractions are owned by American companies, using American tech. I mean the list goes on and on.

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                We are not supplying our troops to fight for the US across the globe (NATO obligations aside.) We have free elections. We are free to set our own social welfare policies. While we can always strive more for additional separations and greater sovereignty there is a lot further to fall if we don’t learn lessons from around the world.

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            Canada would hold out forever, even if the government fell in 6 hours.

            30 percent of Canadians would fold instantly, maybe even be happy.

            30 percent of Canadians would be very unhappy, and at least tolerate to even mildly assist in a resistance, but would take very little risk themselves.

            The rest would form an active resistance and a good chunk of that would propagate generations of if it had to. It would be extremely expensive to maintain any infrastructure outside of Canadian cities. And even the cities would see regular sabotage.

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        The formal army wouldn’t last too long, but imagine what an insurgency would look like.

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        We are tied to tightly to the USA, with auto sector etc, but Canada has a ton of resources we ship to the USA we just need new trade partners

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          But there isn’t anyone who can replace America. They are two big. Sure we should diversify but we can’t replace America.

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            We already are making deals direct to mexico and plans with Europe and China. If the USA continues on this illegal war path we will have to replace them… with the help of the world.

            USA exists by extorting other peoples resources. If people stopped dealing with them totally they would struggle

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    Carney saying that “If CIA declares a winning candidate illegitimate without evidence, Canada will always agree”. Dictators and unconstitutional rulers in Israel and Ukraine, the CIA does approve of, are so legitimate to Canada, we send them money.

    Tucker Carlson recently argued that Canada is an illegitimate country because we allow assisted dying, or perhaps abortion. Canadian government is likely to agree to its own invasion, at this point, so long as CIA appointed governor is transitioned to peacefully and promises freedom and prosperity.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-political-leaders-venezuela-maduro-9.7032642

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      Not a fucking chance, and I’m a bit embarrassed that you can suggest Canada would roll over because it sounds like you don’t like Carney.

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        The Canadian establishment’s love and adoration for everything the US does gives a chance for elbows up just being patient gaslighting. You should understand that chance as a probability when Canada’s military and diplomatic policy has persisted in its colonial service to US despite their attacks and threats to us.

        The CBC’s coverage of this is sickening in its normalization of US evil. More than usual is needed because their marching orders is that our adoration and devotion can only increase from here.

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          If you’re a pessimist chickenshit then get out of the way and let others do what they need to do.

          I’m under no illusions about Canada’s dependence on the US. I’m also under no illusions about what we need to do to break it. I am also aware that there may be pragmatic decisions that need to be made to best position ourselves in the time we have (or don’t have), including eg acknowledging our previous condemnation of Maduro while condemning violations of international law, or slow playing our resistance to the US as much as possible to both buy time and to allow them to hang themselves.

          But I’m not willing to disparage my country, retard progress or demotivate the people courageous enough to fight, in order to come across as a ‘cooler than thou’ cynical edgelord. You’re not seeing something the rest of us don’t see you’re just an obstructionist dick.

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            I’m not willing to disparage my country, retard progress or demotivate the people courageous enough to fight

            Instead of cooler than though edgelording, the only path to economic respect is to end militarist sycophancy and mission support for the US. It’s not a matter of demotivating people, but instead a wake up call. Disparaging the establishment’s apparent unwillingness to fight is support for any courageous people.

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        Yes. Martial law is being used to prevent even local elections which would allow Ukrainian cities/regions to choose to liberate themselves. Demanding absurd 90 day ceasefire to hold fake rigged elections or keep destroying the country.