Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

  • rarsamx@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?

    Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.

    Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.

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      Poland was the last step, which is what started WWII. I think you mean Czechoslovakia (or maybe the Rhineland) was the first step.

    • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.caOP
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      Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.

      As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.

      THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.

      Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.

      • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        First they came for the Communists
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a Communist

        Then they came for the Socialists
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a Socialist

        Then they came for the trade unionists
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a trade unionist

        Then they came for the Jews
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a Jew

        Then they came for me
        And there was no one left
        To speak out for me

        • Martin Niemöller

        Attacking communists is the first step. That’s where the line needs to be drawn. Not an inch to fascism.

        • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.caOP
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          Yes, my opinion can be changed for Mexico, and it would be made in the moment.

          Frankly I wish our governments would more openly stand with one another. I would support it 100%

          By the way, the words Niemoller wrote refer to internal oppression and disenfranchisement. For any example of an external analogue in the same time period, consider UK agreement with Poland, that eventually pulled them into the war and which they courageously honored and defended. We don’t have such an agreement with Mexico.

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        I am Mexican Canadian.

        Mexico hasn’t forgotten about all the stolen territory. Yes, they call it sale and secession and whatever, it was stolen.

        If I put a gun to your head and ask you to sell me a property you have for $10. You are going to do it. I’d say I purchased it. I’m sure you’ll say I stole it.

        So, why do disagree?

        Because of the wise reflection of “first they came for the…”

        Well. If we don’t stand against them taking over Venezuela, who is going to stand with us when they try to take over us (Greenland, Canada, Mexico and the rest)

        The manifest Destiny is no joke.

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          indeed and the Alamo was setup to fail to create an excuse to invade Mexico. There were more Texas-Mexicans defending the Alamo than Caucasians.

        • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.caOP
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          I agree on everything you’ve said.

          If I may ask, and forgive my ignorance: Am I wrong about Mexico? Is there any room for mutual support? Or is Canada generally an afterthought in Mexico, or worse, not trusted?

      • vane@lemmy.world
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        US is in NATO so it doesn’t matter, to be honest NATO without US doesn’t exists because it’s EU, UK, US and Canada, that’s why EU wants Canada in and to be honest Canada should join to keep itself inside old union. US is heading towards BRICS right now.

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          Ironically I think joining BRICS would be a great move for the EU right now, both as an immediate out from the dollar based economic order and to pretty much jam soft power crowbar into BRICS itself that might turn it into a more open economic union and not just Chinas (and Russia playing with an unplugged controllers) sphere of influence.

          That said I’m probably missing a TON of nuance that makes my take basic and dumb.

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        Why would you term Greenland a protectorate? It’s the territory of an ally.

        It saddens me that Americans seem to be incapable of understanding even the concept of an ally.

        • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.caOP
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          I meant that it is under the NATO umbrella. I have no interest, and I would not support, any Canadian involvement in Greenland beyond our help and support in the face of American aggression.

      • Michael@slrpnk.net
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        and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba

        Could you provide a source for this claim?

    • matlag@sh.itjust.works
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      No one, absolutely no one will come defend Greenland, not even Denmark. They would have to send F35 to defend it, with their missions entry going through a server… in the US!! (And these geniuses doubled down, ordering more F35 last october, and they just ordered more military equipment from the US!).

      No NATO member will declare war to the US.

      The only option they would have is to immediately build a military base in Greenland with forces from all European countries, ready to fight. And then, MAYBE Trump will think twice before invading it.