He didn’t mention tech …tech is the most dangerous too the US has for subjugation right now. Any deal with any companies tied to musk, Thiel or Ellison are Bad Bad. I really don’t understand why Carney would join Trump and Netanyahu’s “peace board” that’s glaringly corrupt
I heard he wasn’t going to join
He did… but just one sentence: “And on AI, we’re co-operating with like-minded democracies to ensure that we won’t ultimately be forced to choose between hegemons and hyperscalers.”
And Carney was only invited to be on the board, but it seems we’re not going to be paying the billion dollars Trump is demanding. So it doesn’t seem likely that’s going to happen.
Carney: “The old order is not coming back” = provocative
Trump: “I shit on the world and will take over a territory because I didn’t get a shiny medal” = Trump discusses international policy
FUCK THE MAINSTREAM PRESS
The order that he referred to never truly existed. It just was never aimed at fellow Global North nations. Basically what Trump is doing is, for all practical purposes, the real reason why Hitler is (was?) the most hated human in recent history and not, say, Mussolini. Fascists like Mussolini directed their ambitions towards non-Western countries and never threatened fellow Europeans, so they all laughed at his big chin and bombastic movie-inspired poses (no joke, his famous stare and folding arms pose was taken from a 1916 or 1915 film). Hitler was originally supported by many European leaders and both liberals and conservatives. Why? Because as a fascist he fucking hated communism and had no problem massacring and/or imprisoning as many of them as possible. It wasn’t until he started being aggressive towards other European nations and bringing about the same colonial mentality home to Europe and treating Europeans the same way they treated Indians and Africans did they take a stand. (BTW, Hitler made no secret of this. He wrote it all in Mein Kampf. But then as now, most people never read the book. Churchill was someone who was confirmed to have read the book before Hitler came to power and was opposed to him from day 1).
This is basically the same mentality that schoolyard bullies have and their enablers. When they attack the more awkward kids or anyone perceived as being different for any reason they don’t care. The moment those bullies start to make anything remotely offensive towards their enablers, however, that is when they lose their shit. My biggest weakness (as an autistic adult) is that I was lead to believe that when you grow up all those behaviors and people will be left behind and they also will change. This… is why it took me until I became middle aged to even BEGIN to have a career or some feeling of being taken seriously. My faith in simply being honest, straightforward, and having faith in others to have some basic curiosity or understanding was my undoing.
The order that he referred to never truly existed…
You didn’t hear the speech, did you? Carney clearly says this in it. He goes in detail about how it was all smoke and mirrors and the countries that benefited from it, simply played along knowing full well it was a sham
I, unfortunately, do agree with your statement… I wish we lived in a better world but that is not the case
I did hear most of it, including that part. I hated how he compared the ‘illusion’ to the slogan Workers of the World Unite! It pisses me off that I fear we will never truely be rid of that oligarch shit that has plagued society from the dawn of civilization.
Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.
The EU is working with Australia to grant non visa status. We’ll be next. The new world is connected, not isolationist. We don’t have to join the EU, the world is bigger than Europe, and we can just make our own co-op world. With blackjack and hookers and all the fun stuff.
Little bit of trivia is that Canada shares a land border with the EU.
IIRC this question was seriously asked by Carney a little while back, and we can in all but name. I don’t think there will ever be a Canadian minister in the European Council but we could form trade networks that are basically the same as European nations with the caveat that there is the Atlantic ocean separating us.
I think what OP may also be asking for are travel benefits. As it stands, EU citizens with an EU passport have extremely powerful benefits when travelling within + outside the EU.
I just wish we had an inter-ocean train…
We should all tell Carney to fast-track a 900 trillion dollar sub-ocean high speed rail tunnel.
The US is doing a pretty good job at that itself.
I would love it, however we are an exporting economy so having the euro as our currency may hurt but also trade with the EU would be easier.
The US is not going to be standing as it is by this time next year, maybe sooner.
Adopting the Euro isn’t required for being a member of the EU. UK used to be a member of the EU after all, and they never used the Euro.
Aren’t they being stricter about that for newer members?
As much as I doubt it would happen I would love to get to use the Euro if not for only the stronger purchasing power but for removing the dead people and royal family from our money.
They would likely hold out a chair for us if we asked.
Would we have to start calling it Ourope?
We have the most eloquent, educated, kick ass leader! I shudder to think what PP would be doing under these circumstances. He’d probably be peeing his pants…
He is an extremely conservative, highly anti-worker, and a lot more authoritarian than you think. Also eloquent? Compared to the competition your average high school debate team is probably more eloquent than those jackasses. Trump was always a trash mouthed jackass his entire life, and it never harmed his crimes.
Using words just big enough that Trump won’t understand what he’s saying. Smart.
Reminds me of a Trudeau speech just before he left. He spoke to Canadians and used typical 6th grade english politicians use when adressing very large audiences. Then he adressed Trump directly, looked right into the camera and immediately switched to mono syllabic caveman speech. I swear you could even see a suppressed smirk peek through. I laughed so hard and long I couldn’t hear what he actually said to him.
But, it wasn’t Trudeau. Have you watched the Carney speech at Davos? The whole world stood and clapped. Carney has worked his ass off to find trades away from the U.S.
I have no idea what you are talking about. You misread what I said.
It’s a good speech. He’d be a great prime minister if he weren’t so fond of fossil fuels, military spending (as opposed to actual defence,) and authoritarian bullshit in the name of security as exemplified in the infamous “border security” bill.
Can you imagine how it would be if PP had won?
Dont have to imagine, just wait till next election. Pretty sure it’s only gunna get worse from here and it was too close for comfort this time.
Yep
Doubt timbit trump will even be around next federal election.
No, unfortunately they’ll probably learn from their mistake and find someone slightly less incompetent this time around. Which may be all they need to win
At least they’re keeping this charisma void for now: https://sendvid.com/w057xycg
catbox kept breaking the file fml
I think the border security bill was an initial attempt to placate the Orange Turd… I completely disagree with it anyway, but I am not sure it is part of what Carney would have done under different circumstances
So far I am not finding myself agreeing with Carney too much but this speech was solid and some of the deals and partnerships coming up in the news have been pretty positive (at least with the info available)… so there is hope?
Carney’s reliance on fossil fuels does stick out as somewhat against his own book, Values. This is all speculation, but my theory for the reliance on fossil fuels is that it has a history of econimcally strengthening nations (at least if we ignore pollution), and has historically proven to be a valuable and desired resource globally and domestically. Given he is navigating the biggest economic shift Canada has seen in decades, fossil fuels look like a safe, but not neccesarily the right choice.
Yes, exactly. Actions speak louder than words, of course, and his actions around fossil fuels feel very counter to his published words, but he has also said that we are at economic war now, and war time decisions need to be much more pragmatic than peace time ones.
He said it all today: Countries that cannot feed themselves, fuel themselves, or defend themselves are now supremely vulnerable. We can feed ourselves, and we can fuel ourselves, and we can fuel and feed others. We need to offer that so that they will defend us, as we build up the means to defend ourselves.
Shaking off being a US vassal state is going to get a little messy.
Yes, unfortunately when push comes to shove, environmentalism will often be pushed aside to level the playing field.
Okay, 100% with you on his love for fossil fuels and military spending, but what specifically has he done to be deserving of calling him out of “authoritarian bullshit”?
Read a few more words there and find out. He didn’t write that legislation, but he approved of it, has had the power to stop it all along, and has not renounced it.
I think I perceive that event as Trump appeasement more than authoritarian bullshit, but I at least get where you’re coming from, and I agree that it was a bullshit move. I liked Carney for being someone who I had believed would stand up to Trump, as opposed to our other option, who is still likely still trying to brush the flavour of boot leather out of his mouth. Doing shit to placate the orange turd is just going to empower him. We already saw this once with Hitler and the strategy of appeasement; we don’t need to see it again.
The bill itself was full of maximally authoritarian bullshit, causing all the civil society groups to oppose it as loudly as they did. It remains around in some form, last I heard, still theoretically in the legislative process somewhere, a continuing threat to us all should the Liberals feel confident enough to try and pass any of the worst parts of it into law.
It might’ve been an attempt to appease Trump, or it might’ve been pushed by some Trumpist infiltrator within the party, I don’t know. Optimistically, we can hope that Carney wasn’t really aware of what was in it, and on a topic outside his areas of expertise he was simply misled by people he mistakenly chose to trust. In any case I’m sure he will have learned from the experience.
Genuinely appreciate the insight. Thanks for the fair response.
Tldr “if you don’t know, I’m not gonna tell you”
Him I took the time to answer. You I will block.
It’s a fair assessment of your approach, blocked or not.
Is Carney perfect? No. Is he the best PM we have had, and the perfect man for this situation? Yes.
MacKenzie King. Carney’s new and doing well, but c’mon, best PM he’s not.
Edit: yet?
I watched a few interviews with Carney throughout the election to get an idea of who he is and the policies he might support. One detail that really stuck out to me is he was a goaltender when he played hockey. Canada has a big mean offensive oaf taking shots at it, and Canada elects a goalie as a response.
Hopefully Macron hears this, given the leaked texts to Trump today.
The texts:
“My friend, We are totally in line on Syria. We can do great things on Iran. I do not understand what you are doing on Greenland."
“Let us try to build great things, i can set up a g7 meeting after Davos in Paris on thursday afternoon. I can invite the ukrainians, the danish, the syrians and the russians in the margins. let us have a dinner together in Paris together on thursday before you go back to the us. Emmanuel.”
The assumption is that he leaked them in response to an earlier quote from Macron:
“We do prefer respect to bullies. And we do prefer rule of law to brutality.”
What the actual fuck, I had to check and:
Also NATO’s sec:
Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?
Light mode? Gross
The size of the text too omg it’s like one of those children’s leappad things.
I doubt these are actually text messages sent to him from Macron, but possibly messages passed from Macron to a Trump lacky and then reinterpreted in a way Trump can read. No clue about SecGen.
There’s no way Trump understands screenshots. So at minimum, if true, the posting of these are a collaboration with a handler.
Macron has been brilliant with foreign policy. A little less with domestic policy. Still he’s been boldly playing 4-D chess with Putin and 1-D checkers with Trump.
