When officers entered the school on Tuesday afternoon, they found six victims deceased, RCMP confirmed.
An individual believed to be the shooter was also found deceased with what appears to be a self‑inflicted injury.
Two victims have been airlifted to the hospital with serious or life‑threatening injuries. A third victim died while being transported to hospital. Approximately 25 others are being assessed and triaged at the local medical centre for non‑life‑threatening injuries.
The active shooter alert was lifted at 5:46 p.m. PT.
For a second I thought this occurred in America; seems like an every day event here. Dang Canada, are you ok?
The sickness that’s taken over America is very much alive and unwell in Canada.
What? The worst year for mass shootings in Canada looks like 2022, with 8 shootings. The one with the most casualties was in 1918 in Québec City, 4 dead 100 injured. Highest number of deaths was the 2020 Nova Scotia attacks with 23 dead and 3 injured, but that was a spree, not a single event. The highest deaths in a single event was in Montreal in 1989 with 15 dead 14 injured.
First shooting (on the Wikipedia article ) is 1902. For the most part it’s 1-3 events a year, usually with 1-5 years between, until we get up towards the 90s and 00s.
Should we compare that with the US?
2024 saw 711 dead and 2375 wounded in 586 shootings.
2025 saw 420 dead and 1898 injured in 425 shootings.
As of 31st of Jan this year, 35 dead and 85 injured in 26 shootings.
Obviously the US is a poor comparison right?
So if we look at ONLY public mass shootings:
And which excludes:
Between 2000 and 2022, in the US and comparable countries there were 144 public mass shootings across 36 countries, 20 of which had none. If we remove the US from the list (109 events), Canada is 3rd with 4 public mass shootings, all of which are post 2010. Mass shootings are trending upwards globally, which is certainly something to worry about, and something that we need to plan to prevent as a society.
So what’s happening in Canada with gun crime?
Fucking America… Lax ass gun laws that contribute heavily to gun violence in the States has a trickle down effect of people being able to go and just buy a gun, stick it under their seat, and drive back into Canada. Upwards of 75% of gun crime in Canada is perpetrated by someone with an illegally imported American firearm. Sweet.
This wiki page goes back to the 19th century. Showing a school shooting in 1884. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_Canada
Sure, but if you read the article attached to the citation for the 1884 shooting, it sounds like it was an unhinged head teacher angry that the lady teacher didn’t want his dick. It was an attempted murder suicide, that happened at a school, because that was their work place. The head teacher fired 3 shots from a revolver, wounding the teacher, then took his own life. I think these weren’t on the Mass Shootings list because they don’t meet the criteria for it.
From the wiki page I linked in my OP:
Most of the school shooting list seems to be attacks targeting specific victims…and in one instance a door…
At least until the back half of the 20th century. From 1900-1999 there’s 43 instances. Of those only 7 hit the required 4+ victims excluding attacker. All but one are post 1950. The one was 1902.
Even post 2000 the majority of instances are things like:
Or very much targeted attacks:
2006 is the Dawson College shooting. The next one to go past the 4+ is 2012, a security guard at University of Alberta Edmonton attempted a robbery, killing 3 colleagues and wounding a 4th, attacker arrested attempting to cross the us border. Then the 2016 La Loche shootings. 2024 in Toronto. And then the Tumbler Ridge shooting just the other day.
One instance in the 19th century, 43 in the entire 20th(as above, only 7 are above the 4+), and the first quarter of the 21st has 29 total with the listed 4. Tumbler Ridge is literally the highest casualty school shooting since 1884. As of the latest update on your linked page 35 victims, 8 dead 27 wounded excluding the attacker. Next closest is the École Polytechnique massacre in Montreal end of '89, 28 victims, 14 dead 14 wounded excluding attacker.
Thanks for linking that, I hadn’t thought to look up a Canadian school shootings list. Gives more context to the history of it in Canada. I feel like it’s important to note that the vast majority of Canadian school shootings have less than 5 total wounded and dead including the attacker, with many that have no wounded at all. A lot of them seem to be “crimes of passion” (jilted lovers, kids bullied until they snap, etc.) and seem to have a single intended victim, or kids being fucking stupid with a gun their parent/guardian was too stupid to properly secure…
Here’s the list for US school shootings 2000-2025. 25 year total 642 school shootings. Including attacker(s) total dead 498, total wounded 953. Of those 642 instances…only 16 count as mass shooting events, 4+ victims excluding attacker.
It was actually really interesting going through all this data. Upsetting, but interesting.
Pretty sure they meant an everyday event in the US not in Canada.
That is what I meant. Before I finished reading the headline I thought this was taking place in America.
Shh, don’t tell them, they worked really hard on that comment.
@CptBread@lemmy.world
Yeah dude, don’t burst their bubble, or remind them to carefully read things before spending 45mins doing a write up with citations! 🤫
Why the fuck my man getting downvoted for actually doing the legwork. Thanks for all this.
I’m not sweating it bud, I definitely didn’t have my reading comprehension hat on when I first read the comment I replied to. Most people vote by vibe, and even if I did a bunch of combing through lists and doing a write up, I started off a bit antagonistic.
I appreciate this though, I did put a lot of effort into it 😅
everythings the same folks will be like. look. canada is just like the us. its not about guns.
And yet Canadian legal gun owners have to pay for that. With the gun bans of the past 6 years banned almost every semi-automatic rifle by name, grandfathering all handguns, and now shotguns are being added to the list.
They are also looking to expand rifle bans to include any rifle with a detachable magazine… news flash: most bolt-action rifles have detachable magazines.
Yeah, I’m not super versed in Canadian gun law, I never really had the interest 🤷.
That said, everything I’ve heard about new bans/restrictions coming in from my friends and family who hunt sound incredibly reactionary with no actual aim to fix the issues that they state are the aim…
The money being spent on the ban could be used much more effectively to reduce crime by investing it elsewhere such as mental health services. Many local police forces have refused to participate (its optional for them) citing their resources are better spent elsewhere which will push the costs onto the RCMP.
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We get it dude. You like guns. It’s like… every post I see by you.
Do this some other day.
What the hell do you need a gun for! Get lost.
Tell me you live in a big city without saying it
Hunt.
Stop hunting, there are very few wild animals left. We have farms, eat farmed meat.
Tell me again you never leave the city
Vancouver island has too many deer to the point where it’s a problem if we don’t shoot some of them
Ever heard of the deer problem on haida gwaii? Every deer killed there is beneficial to the island…
It was impossible to garden until we put up a skookum fence, and with only a few occasional predators (gulf islands) the deer are shrinking in size yet browse in greater numbers. The forests are out of balance because they are overbrowsed.
Not much hunting locally due to restrictions, I think it was only shotgun slug and bow a few years back, and there’s not much crown land around, so we have a bad deer problem.
We pulled one part of the ecology out, predation, and people object to replacing it or any fix. It’s going to make wildfires worse and reduces biodiversity.
We’ve killed off vast amounts of natural predators. Hunting is regulated and often an important part of population control for the hunted animal. It also isn’t just about harvesting the meat, for many it is a deeply rooted cultural tradition.
Tradition is not a good argument for continued practice. Many traditions were and are objectively wrong.
The population control argument is rich. We don’t regulate the most destructive species on the planet.
Wisely selective hunting in the absence of adequate predation can be important for an ecosystem, it’s old wisdom. (Not that that is how hunting regulation works in Canada of course.)
But in an interdependent origination view of living in a web, hunting like that is not totally different from how we manage plants that evolved with herbivorous megafauna. Those megafauna are extinct, so now part of the web is broken. So people coppice willows, and they live three times longer and are more resistant to disease. Pruning by teeth is what many deciduous trees and shrubs evolved for, so we have to fill the gap to get a really healthy orchard.
Sovereignty
Morons advocating for gun ownership is how we lose sovereignty.
Average citizens participating in politics and demanding justice is how we keep sovereignty.
Participating in politics and demanding justice are liberal democratic tools of effective governance that should be encouraged and celebrated.
Sovereignty is about the independence of the state, international autonomy, and territorial integrity.
When your neighbour routinely threatens your sovereignty and that neighbour happens to lead the world in defense spending and guns per capita, it might be time to consider a CFSC course.
A bunch of childish nonsense
What is inherently wrong with gun ownership? Every house in switzerland has an assault rifle.
I think every canadian should have mandatory firearms training too and I think that the PAL is currently far too easy to get. I just did my PAL…it’s designed for the average albertan to pass. Lol
So good will and vibes keeps Canada sovereign got it. I hope Russia China and America support our vibes.
An individual with a firearm isn’t keeping anything sovereign. This is the domain of national diplomacy and state militaries. Keep larping though.
It’s not about the “sovereign citizen” or “rugged individualists” as a first line of defense for their nation’s sovereignty.
But it hasn’t even been a month since the PM gave this wake-up call:
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Americans are not “following the rules” normally afforded to Western powers and we are hopelessly outmatched militarily. But consider how the US has lost foreign military conflicts when faced with armed local insurgencies in the past several decades.
The USA has nuclear missiles.
So your position is anti-gun as a deterrent, but pro-nuclear proliferation as a deterrent?
Your argument is Americans would threaten nuclear war against Canada, when the vast majority of Canadians live within 100 miles of the border and 70% of Canadians are south of the 49th parallel?
Or are you suggesting the US would first strike Nunavut?
The finns won the winter war outnumbered 100 to 1, the US doesn’t scare me
And I sure as shit hope our citizens have guns because europe isn’t going to show up to help us
Also I live in Victoria. How is the US going to nuke me without blowing up the Puget sound base in the process?
I’m pretty sure most of Canada is rural as shit and has like bears and giant moose and stuff. I’d probably want a gun in that environment. I cant really comment for real though, im in the UK and the wilderness is tame as fuck here.
Too many of these gusy move to a rural tourist town, 2hr drive from the city, or move to a mining town…and start to think of themselves as lone libertarian survivalists that hate ‘city-idiots’. There are very few people in Canada that actually live remotely or in the bush off-grid. Most of these guys have no interest in environmental issues, studying nature, and are just obsessed with owning guns and trucks.
Uh no not really, like most developed countries we’re primarily urban… I’ve lived in the boreal forest and nobody has guns for bears lol.
Violence can happen anywhere there are humans.