• acargitz@lemmy.ca
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        There are no Semitic people only Semitic languages. Saying that Arabs are Semitic is a category error.

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            Two things are true at once:

            1. no people is Semitic (because the word applies to languages not to peoples)
            2. antisemitism is the hostility towards Jews as Jews (because words have meaning beyond their etymology, just like homophobia does not imply being scared of homosexuals)

            Otherwise, what, antisemism is the hostility towards speakers of Semitic languages? That’s just silly.

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              Otherwise, what, antisemism is the hostility towards speakers of Semitic languages? That’s just silly.

              That’s the origin. It is silly, I agree.

              I’m not arguing that it doesn’t mean Jews now. I’m just saying it’s stupid.

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                “Um achtchually” incoming.

                The origin of the word “antisemitism” is not about languages. It is about race. It is based on 1770s Biblical racial terminology that broke up all humanity according to the three sons of Noah: Shem (-ites: Jews, Arabs, etc) , Ham (-ites: Africans), Japheth (-ites: Europeans, Persians).

                A few decades later, a French fuckface called Ernest Renan creates a whole story about how Semites are inferior to Aryans/Japhthites and even writes a very influential book about how Jesus was born a Semite Jew but perfected himself to become an Aryan Christian.

                So at this point, the term “semites” has a very clear racist sense to it. And in response to that Moritz Steinschneider, an Austrian Jew invents the word “antisemitism” in

                the phrase “antisemitische Vorurteile” (antisemitic prejudices). Steinschneider used this phrase to characterise the French philosopher Ernest Renan’s false ideas about how ‘Semitic races’ were inferior to ‘Aryan races’". (src)

                Then (with various intermediates) comes a German fuckface, Wilhelm Marr, who not only popularises the conflation of Semites with Jews but also proudly declares Antisemitism as an moral impertative to save Germany from the Jews and

                in 1879 founded the League of Antisemites (Antisemiten-Liga), the first German organization committed specifically to combating the alleged threat to Germany posed by the Jews and advocating their forced removal from the country.

                That’s the story. The term originally was a bullshit racial category that happened to have some linguistic usefulness that we still retain.

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                  Oh, damn. Huh. TIL. Who knew that “race science” didn’t have enough bullshit for some people, and they felt the need to invent all kinds of new garbage for it?

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      Antisemitic used to mean people who didn’t like jews. Now it means people the jews don’t like.

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        People the Zionists* don’t like. Plenty of Christian Evangelicals also using it because they want the end of times to come about.

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          Extra points earned if you cause a Zionist to rage by mentioning that Arabs are Semites.

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        He’s antisemitic in that he deliberately conflates anti-zionism with antisemitism. This is tarring non-zionist jews, thus is antisemitic in and of itself.