• Agent_Karyo@piefed.worldBanned from community
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    13 hours ago

    You’re welcome to assume that’s the case!

    Being from Eastern Ukraine (with my home town occupied by the russian scum), I totally would not understand the topic!

    I also have to pre-qualify anything I write for the benefit of randoms on Threadi!

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      13 hours ago

      Article 15 of the declaration of human rights.

      If you are willing to deny others their human rights you first must surrender your own rights.

      I doubt you would like that.

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        11 hours ago

        Typical western keyboard lecturing. You’re out of your depth. Sitting in Australia talking about things you don’t understand.

        I stand by what I said.

        If you don’t mind indulging me, why did you reply what you did?

        Did you assume I didn’t know that? Is this a “moral lecture” of sorts? Have you ever considered weaknesses in what you seem to be arguing for?

        Genuinely curious about this.

        I may be from Ukraine (living in Kyiv), but that doesn’t necessarily mean I’ve never left Ukraine or that I don’t speak other languages or haven’t lived in many other countries, including non-western countries (and encountered similar argument to what you are pitching).

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          11 hours ago

          None of what you’ve said addresses citizenship, the legalities around the stripping of citizenship or the deporting of a country’s own citizens.

          Easy enough to make flippant remarks when you have zero clue what you’re actually talking about.

          Your location and proximity to a conflict has no bearing on your comprehension of international legal systems.

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            11 hours ago

            Your location and proximity to a conflict has no bearing on your comprehension of international legal systems.

            Totally!

            Too bad you wouldn’t indulge me, the rest of our mini convo is pointless. This would actually be something new and interesting (if you actually answered in good faith, which based on your most recent reply, you are not willing to do).

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              11 hours ago

              I have no reason to indulge you on anything. I have simply offered reasonable criticism of your comments on citizenship and deporting citizens and I will continue to offer criticism without veering off into irrelevant discussion.

              You have offered no refutation of my statements at all and have only personally criticised me for my lack of proximity to a conflict.

              You might learn why your proposal is illegal under international and humanitarian law if you bothered to read.

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                8 hours ago

                Bullshit! You have no fucking clue about the meaning of human rights. You’re just reading some stuff online and you have no understanding of how the real world works.

                The truth is you don’t actually care about “international and humanitarian law” beyond acting out online. It’s purely an aesthetic thing for you.

                You quote the universal declaration of human rights without even considering how to truly implement it and the kind of choices society would have to make.

                All that shows is that you don’t actually care about about the UDHR. You’re out of your depth and you know it (you wont admit it here and you’ll keep “fighting back”, but we both know the truth).

                All the best!

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          Dude, you being from Ukraine gives you precisely zero additional authority on the topic. If anything, the far-right/fascist leaning political climate in your country would make you less likely to have non-insane views on human rights.

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              hahaha holy shit I just looked at the article you linked and you’re literally praising extrajudicial abduction, torture and murder.

              "Bentley was placed in a car, beaten, and tortured, which resulted in his death.

              Vansyatsky and Agaltsev then placed his body in the trunk of the car and detonated it, according to investigators. The next day, Bazhin and Iordanov went to the site of the car bombing and burned the remains of the victim."

              How the fuck are you even pretending to care about human rights? lmao

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              5 hours ago

              Govorim srpskohrvatski jezik, außerdem spreche ich perfektes Deutsch. But sure, I’m definitely American. Very good look wishing death upon someone because they don’t like your nation, very leftist and not at all nationalist of you.

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                  Not having enough reading comprehension to realize your own comment accused me of only speaking English is impressive.

                  Notice how I never wished harm upon anyone, and you just doubled down on wanting to see a perfect stranger die because they dare criticize your sacred state? The one that still holds Stepan Bandera in high regards as a national hero?