• Schwim Dandy@piefed.zip
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    1 day ago

    If he loses his day job because of shenanigans like this, I’m sure he’d find a cushy job in the Trump administration.

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      I am not even remotely a fan of much of the things Carney is doing, but to paint him as a Trump sycophant is just bullshit.

      Most people who voted Liberal in the last election went into it full well knowing Canada was electing a red conservative, but the alternative was way fucking worse.

      We could have ended up with an actual Trump sycophant.

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        No they didn’t. Carney stole a bunch of Kate Raworth talking points and people bought it. “We have become a market society” was what pulled NDP voters and the left flank of the LPC in.

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          As a member of the NDP, who voted specifically AGAINST PP as my MP, I knew exactly what I was doing, and so did all of my friends and neighbours.

          Anyone who didn’t see a red conservative wasn’t paying attention.

          • Appointed to Governor of BoE under a Conservative.
          • Appointed to Governor of BoC under a Conservative.
          • He wrote a book about markets and stakeholder capitalism.
          • His book said the job of the state is to clear hurdles.
          • He wrote that true prosperity is driven by wealth generation and global trade
          • He worked at Goldman Sachs.
          • He had an article written about him in 2021 that called him a “Bay Street Liberal”.
          • At the 2024 Convention, long before Trudeau resigned, he spoke against the financial policies of the Liberals and talked about wealth creation.
          • He worked at Brookfield.

          And so on, and so on.

          Still a thousand times better than the alternative.

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            So in order to defeat Conservatives you voted for a Conservative? You forgot to mention that his dissertation is heavily based on Game Theory. Weird that the guy with a Doctorate in Game Theory framed an election as a zero sum game.

            Let’s not forget in 2018 when the Conservative’s told Paul Wells they were going to do everything possible to get rid of the carbon tax. Then ran over Trudeau for years and years until it finally worked. Even Brown was a victim to this when CTV published slander to get him out of the OPC leadership race. Then the CPC just DQ’d him from Leadership.

            But hey, you really stuck it to the guy you didn’t like by voting for his platform in a different suit.

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              I’m sorry that saying the alternative was worse is too difficult to understand.

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                Don’t really see much of a difference. Which once again was evident during the election when they had the same platforms. But hey, not like there isn’t a third option in Canada.

                At some point this tired talking point needs to be laid to rest. Because it’s essentially speed running Duverger’s Law and coming from the same people who bash Trudeau for ER stuff, it’s beyond hypocritical.

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                  Using technical terminology doesn’t make you right. Yes, we need to get rid of FPTP, but that doesn’t mean we should have let someone who wants to live up Trump’s ass so badly that he has it on a vision board, become PM.

                  I would rather have 5 years of sanity with a government I don’t like then have have PP become PM. Ask yourself how hated you have to be to have a riding you have held for 20 years hate you so much they boo you at a Christmas parade.

                  Given the fact that your account has existed a day, I’m going to assume you are a troll account, paid for by the CPC, an offshore asshole intentionally trying to cause issues, or you are so profoundly naive that you don’t understand how utterly fucking awful a PP government would be for us.

                  Don’t really see much of a difference.

                  This right there is enough for me to be done with you

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                    One makes you feel better about yourself than the other? Thats the literal difference. Carney already lives up Trumps ass. He repealed a lot of the Trudeau policy around the environment. He’s passing draconian security legislation. He’s tariffed the shit out of inputs that we cannot produce domestically. He’s pushing O&G to new heights. Bailing out developers. Killed Nate Erskine-Smith’s housing proposals he campaigned on.

                    So yeah, they’re the same clown as far as I see. The only difference here is that you like Carney as a person. Which is a completely failing of democracy.

                    I grew up being taught to vote for what I believe in, and not to vote against things. But hey, people like you pretend we live in a democracy. 2025 was the perfect illustration of how we have become a two party system with very little differences between the two parties.

                    But Liberals need to continue the moral relativism and zero sum electoral game to retain power. So they’re more than happy to keep pushing the narrative. I see more news about Poilievre from them than anyone else. It’s all ad hominem too. You can’t attack his policy because it’s your policy.

                    Oh yeah you also let a hard right Conservative into caucus.

                    Carney and Poilievre are the same person in terms of governing and ideology. Carney just did the classic liberal thing of campaigning from the left.

                    Edit: oh yeah and you’re also isolating people. You really think I’m a troll? You understand people can have different outlooks to you and treating support as a zero sum game does nothing but make you look like the Liberal elitist that you probably are. Maybe you should go read Value(s) again if you can get the pages unstuck.

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        Woah, easy there, chief. I didn’t mean to light you up this morning. I was simply basing the comment off of his climate “activism” that’s destroying your chances of actually protecting your country from it. I’m not sure how you got sycophantic behavior being insinuated but I’m sorry if that’s how it came off.

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          …I’m not sure how you got sycophantic behavior being insinuated but I’m sorry if that’s how it came off.

          By you suggesting that he and Trump are like minds or would be comfortable bedfellows…

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            Simply that he would make a great head for the US EPA. He definitely is of like mind in that regard.

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                  No one cares about the numbers… but they reflect how well you are getting your point across and whether people find your ideas compelling. If you don’t care about effectively communicating ideas then you are nothing but a psych patient barking from atop a soap box…

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                    While Carney helps burn our world, the social justice warriors in the community get to cast a vote they think matters. If you think about it, I’m doing you all a favor.

                    No need to thank me. I don’t do OT for the accolades.

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        He wasn’t at first but now days I’m confident he just wants more money and someone like Bessent offers enough he’d literally suck Peter Thiel’s dick

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          There’s a quote in his book that I think explains it really well and turned me off of him instantly. “Crisis is not the time for reform” in context to the GFC. So while he was stumping at stating we are in a crisis, I knew he was going to be the worst version of himself.