Surprise, surprise. Carney is still a neoliberal.
We all knew it, the alternative was a dumb fuck hell bent on dividing the country
What’s a really disturbing red flag for me is he keeps touting carbon capture as a solution to offset the new damage. Feels like marketing strategy to allay the fears of people who don’t have the time to look into its effectiveness. I thought CCS was just something he used during the campaign and won’t be actually leaning into.
Best intermediate technological solution while demand keeps increasing. Fossil fuels aren’t going away any time soon, so any investment around CCU and alternatives, together with societal change, will be very welcome.
Getting the federal government to stop doing things like that begins with getting Big Oil’s political influence and propaganda out of Alberta.
This is the result of them promoting an astroturf separatist movement which they weaponized to force the federal government to let them pollute the planet unhindered, under threat of destroying the country.
Man this sub really hates the guy. Other places I see people praising him, and the other half hating him. No one in the middle even. Last I saw his polling numbers were at their highest peak, not sure where they are at now.
What makes this place so hostile?
Some people hate Carney becauae PP’s not PM. We hate Carney because of (some of) the shit he does. We’re not the same.jpg
Also plenty of us voted for him and some contributed to his campaign. Even tho we did not expect much more than blocking PP, we still salty when he shits on unions or lays off wildfire experts.
People here lean left more than most other places. Carney is, without a doubt, more right leaning than Trudeau, who many already struggled with his neolib policies. Shifting FURTHER into those policies isn’t going to make this place like him
Yes. This. Lemmy seems to attract a lot of people who think we are on the brink of an imminent socialist revolution. While I admire many things about socialism, living in SW Ontario way outside Toronto I would just settle for not seeing anti-abortion billboards and F*CK CARNEY stickers everywhere and continuing to resist the right-wing nonsense taking over many other Western countries. (No, not just the US…Le Pen, Meloni, the list goes on…)
In all reality, we will never be able to get a party in majority that supports eradicating corporate entities, banning ICE (by this I mean gas powered vehicles btw - anything related to the American government agency should absolutely never be present here) vehicles immediately, establishing UBI, etc etc - these things will not happen in extremes that will slowly happen here and there and some won’t at all. The goal right now is “least shitty” not “The Great Socialist Revolution” but this is a community with many idealists and that’s cool but just remember that when you read some of these posts.
It may be easier to get socialist (in practice, not labels) politicians elected where the Fuck Carney signs are than a politician that doesn’t Fuck Carney themselves. Not a socialist that peddles the whole program a downtown Toronto leftist wants, but an appropriate subset that helps their community in real ways by actually working against corporate interests. After all that’s happened before. The real issues affect most of us and I think that’s gonna get more obvious to more people in the years to come.
To anyone reading this, I’d remind you that local politics are THE MOST important. You can far more easily get local politicians in who are extremely progressive, and begin movement from there. The lack of parties means its much simpler to run, and most people don’t even bother voting. Plus those changes can have drastic impacts on what you see and do on a daily basis.
Especially so in Canada. The politics that affects like 95% of your daily life is local and provincial. It infuriates me when I hear people blame all their problems on the PM that are actually the responsibility of your local or provincial government. Blaming Trudeau (or now Carney) for Doug Ford’s faults.
Housing, healthcare, education, public transport, urban planning, welfare, labour standards? It’s all exclusive jurisdiction of the provinces.
This is absolutely true - while my riding is a complete waste and shithole that will always vote Conservative, we have had many progressive people on our town council and in mayoral positions.
Pay more attention.
HE’S AN ASSHOLE
Carney is a fiscal conservative, so let’s get that straight. His concerns are Canadian independence, sovereignty and growth. He’s thinking about keeping the country economically viable and strong through this period of turmoil and “new world order” shift as the US is keen to dump its global hegemony.
Now… with that said, I’m sure he does care about the climate, but it totally takes a back seat to these other issues which he sees as being essentially existential.
I think it’s an order of priorities and people who service the constant crisis/boom cycle of capitalism will never get correct. Humans are party animals and no amount of good sense is going to change that. It’s going to take burning this bitch to the ground and immense loss of life to change tack, and only then it will be because it becomes the predominant existential problem.
As long as most people can still shit somewhat comfortably, nothing will be done to upset that directly, ever. This is why so many bad things can happen and the average person wont lift a finger, because they still have a nice seat waiting for them at home to shit on.
Carney is a fiscal conservative, so let’s get that straight. His concerns are Canadian independence, sovereignty and growth
for the 1% wealthy Canadians…
Now… with that said, I’m sure he does care about the climate, but it totally takes a back seat to these other issues which he sees as being essentially existential.
Then he doesn’t care… that is like saying “I care about my second son but will pay no mind to him while my first one needs literally anything”. “Business growth” will never take a back seat, and it will never not need tax cuts for the rich or austerity for the poor
If Carney cared about the Canadian economy.
- He’d seize and rebuild the refineries that Brian Mulroney(also a fiscal con) allowed to be moved to Washington State. As it is, US oil companies get to sell our raw product offshore and worse, then sell it back to us. BC communities assume a risk of annihilation for zero benefit.
- He’d put oil pipelines to Ontario/New Bruinswick/Nova Scotia with the intent of shipping oil to Europe. You know, a market that actually wants and needs more.
- He’d tell the US lumber lobby to pound sand and help rural BC instead of them being ignored by all except the reform party crazies.
His only concern is serving the coorporates
If he cared about sovereignty, he wouldn’t entertain Alberta separatism and should try to call it out for what it is.
Mark’s concerns are the bottom line. Always have been. Guy’s net worth is 10mil - i don’t think he even knows what the average Canadian (i.e. 1/4 go hungry) even feel.
career politician.
ranks somewhere between worm and snake. I guess snake, here, with the snake oil solution.
delete all of them. left and right.
He is a banker.
If he loses his day job because of shenanigans like this, I’m sure he’d find a cushy job in the Trump administration.
I am not even remotely a fan of much of the things Carney is doing, but to paint him as a Trump sycophant is just bullshit.
Most people who voted Liberal in the last election went into it full well knowing Canada was electing a red conservative, but the alternative was way fucking worse.
We could have ended up with an actual Trump sycophant.
No they didn’t. Carney stole a bunch of Kate Raworth talking points and people bought it. “We have become a market society” was what pulled NDP voters and the left flank of the LPC in.
As a member of the NDP, who voted specifically AGAINST PP as my MP, I knew exactly what I was doing, and so did all of my friends and neighbours.
Anyone who didn’t see a red conservative wasn’t paying attention.
- Appointed to Governor of BoE under a Conservative.
- Appointed to Governor of BoC under a Conservative.
- He wrote a book about markets and stakeholder capitalism.
- His book said the job of the state is to clear hurdles.
- He wrote that true prosperity is driven by wealth generation and global trade
- He worked at Goldman Sachs.
- He had an article written about him in 2021 that called him a “Bay Street Liberal”.
- At the 2024 Convention, long before Trudeau resigned, he spoke against the financial policies of the Liberals and talked about wealth creation.
- He worked at Brookfield.
And so on, and so on.
Still a thousand times better than the alternative.
So in order to defeat Conservatives you voted for a Conservative? You forgot to mention that his dissertation is heavily based on Game Theory. Weird that the guy with a Doctorate in Game Theory framed an election as a zero sum game.
Let’s not forget in 2018 when the Conservative’s told Paul Wells they were going to do everything possible to get rid of the carbon tax. Then ran over Trudeau for years and years until it finally worked. Even Brown was a victim to this when CTV published slander to get him out of the OPC leadership race. Then the CPC just DQ’d him from Leadership.
But hey, you really stuck it to the guy you didn’t like by voting for his platform in a different suit.
I’m sorry that saying the alternative was worse is too difficult to understand.
Don’t really see much of a difference. Which once again was evident during the election when they had the same platforms. But hey, not like there isn’t a third option in Canada.
At some point this tired talking point needs to be laid to rest. Because it’s essentially speed running Duverger’s Law and coming from the same people who bash Trudeau for ER stuff, it’s beyond hypocritical.
Using technical terminology doesn’t make you right. Yes, we need to get rid of FPTP, but that doesn’t mean we should have let someone who wants to live up Trump’s ass so badly that he has it on a vision board, become PM.
I would rather have 5 years of sanity with a government I don’t like then have have PP become PM. Ask yourself how hated you have to be to have a riding you have held for 20 years hate you so much they boo you at a Christmas parade.
Given the fact that your account has existed a day, I’m going to assume you are a troll account, paid for by the CPC, an offshore asshole intentionally trying to cause issues, or you are so profoundly naive that you don’t understand how utterly fucking awful a PP government would be for us.
Don’t really see much of a difference.
This right there is enough for me to be done with you
Woah, easy there, chief. I didn’t mean to light you up this morning. I was simply basing the comment off of his climate “activism” that’s destroying your chances of actually protecting your country from it. I’m not sure how you got sycophantic behavior being insinuated but I’m sorry if that’s how it came off.
…I’m not sure how you got sycophantic behavior being insinuated but I’m sorry if that’s how it came off.
By you suggesting that he and Trump are like minds or would be comfortable bedfellows…
Simply that he would make a great head for the US EPA. He definitely is of like mind in that regard.
Clearly your communication needs work based on how you’re getting ratioed…
Clearly you don’t know how little I care about “ratios”.
No one cares about the numbers… but they reflect how well you are getting your point across and whether people find your ideas compelling. If you don’t care about effectively communicating ideas then you are nothing but a psych patient barking from atop a soap box…
It’s your who needs works
It’s your who needs works
Case in point. 😂
I’m sure he’d find a cushy job in the Trump administration.
I’m sure he’d find a cushy job in the Trump administration.
He wasn’t at first but now days I’m confident he just wants more money and someone like Bessent offers enough he’d literally suck Peter Thiel’s dick
There’s a quote in his book that I think explains it really well and turned me off of him instantly. “Crisis is not the time for reform” in context to the GFC. So while he was stumping at stating we are in a crisis, I knew he was going to be the worst version of himself.
