• Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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    19 hours ago

    That’s the point:

    The ministry responsible for Ontario’s prisoners agrees. It wrote in internal training documents viewed exclusively by The Breach that “Indigenous and racialized individuals face systemic discrimination in our justice system … As a result, assessments like SAFER would likely contribute to the overrepresentation of Indigenous inmates in maximum security.”

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      19 hours ago

      No that’s saying that they would be overrepresented in maximum security, they have to commit crimes to get there in the first place

      A better argument would be, how do you get them to stop committing crime to begin with? and wouldn’t this give an extra incentive to staying out of prison?

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        14 hours ago

        Sort of, but you have cause and effect out of order.

        It is well understood that poverty is correlated to crime.

        And that racailized people are more often living in poverty.

        But underlying all of that is societal failures, not some inherent flaws of those people’s racial identity.

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          14 hours ago

          It’s not even that in this case. They discuss it in the article. We’re talking about people in jail pre-trial. They haven’t even been convicted yet.

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          13 hours ago

          But underlying all of that is societal failures, not some inherent flaws of those people’s racial identity.

          Well said! Indeed, the commenter in question is straying from the subject of OP

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        14 hours ago

        I mean this in a non sassy way: did you read the whole article? They discuss this in quite a bit of detail. My response was going to be to just quote more of it to you, but let me know if there is something in there in particular you don’t get.

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        16 hours ago

        We can address overrepresentation of Black and Indigenous people in our criminal justice system by tackling racism and colonialism in the people and processes of our criminal justice system and ensuring Black and Indigenous voices are represented in those departments

        We can reduce Indigenous People’s (or any community’s) reasons for turning to crime by reducing the social deprivation they face (which our government - like yours most likely - has intentionally engineered for over a century). For example, there should be clean drinking water on reserves, access to higher education, etc.

        It doesn’t matter what colour your skin is, we all want an opportunity to succeed and have a good life as we define it; and we all get discouraged when that’s not available

        wouldn’t [the threat of institutionalized racism leading to worse accommodations] give an extra incentive to staying out of prison?

        I hope others are able to offer more compassion to you than you’ve been able to offer to a very important and marginalized group