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    23 hours ago

    [this system we’re considering] maintains the close connection between voters and their members of Parliament—one that Canadians are familiar with in single-member ridings

    Lol. How many people can name their MP?

    These arguments don’t hold up to scrutiny, though. In Ireland, PR-STV has worked well, and while it produces coalition governments, these have been stable administrations for decades that regularly run their full term. As for the argument that PR grants extremists and radicals a route into the legislature, to date in Ireland, the far right has failed to make electoral inroads despite the permissiveness of the electoral system. Instead, hyper-local independent candidates have become a staple of the political culture.

    That feels like cherrypicking the one counterexample when there’s a ton of straight examples of political fragmentation. Like, pretty much pick any different European country.

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      23 hours ago

      [this system we’re considering] maintains the close connection between voters and their members of Parliament—one that Canadians are familiar with in single-member ridings

      Lol. How many people can name their MP?

      Exactly! More votes matter under PR “[this system we’re considering]”, and so more people would probably be able to name their MP under a PR system

      I don’t disagree with you about the cherrypicking thing, although I don’t know enough about PR in other areas to know. I already read today about some right-wing crap in Italy, the other country they mentioned: Italy Blocks Reproductive Health Websites Women on Web (WoW) and Women Help Women (WHW)

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        People don’t know because their votes don’t matter. It’s because they don’t care, and it doesn’t matter much. In practice we vote for parties.

        To be clear, this article is about a very specific kind of PR that keeps representatives. Other kinds, like party list, wouldn’t.