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The liberals in power now are effectively conservatives, especially since Carney
Quality education is the solution to fascists.
Germany has a pretty good education system and AFD is polling at 28%…
Cant help those who dont want to learn
Germany is a funny example because not only are they educated, but they also have special history, and laws that should ban being fascist, as well. They’ve just kind of interpreted them into unenforceability.
TBF its not actually across the board. The main base of AFD support is in former East Germany.
It’s not super clear how this connects to the article.
Try reading them again.
You’re helping elucidate it though 🤣
Decent, non-partisan-enough article on our electoral system with a terrible, very partisan-sounding headline. Canada does have a conservative government, it’s just formed by the LPC vs the CPC.
I’ll admit, I skimmed their re-counting previous elections using a PR system analysis because I think voters fundamentally vote differently under PR vs FPTP. FPTP often incentivizes voting AGAINST parties, whereas PR often incentivizes voting FOR parties. For example, in the last federal election, the LPC wouldn’t have got such a big anti-CPC vote under PR. Moreover, Ontario has always split the Libs and Cons at the federal and provincial levels in the last 70 years or so, minus one election with Bob Rae
Headlines are all those seeking bias confirmation need - they often stop reading right there. “Conservative” media owners know this, as Fox has long used the method on their sites. Who owns this publisher?
The CPC is the party they were talking about, who would win more under a different system.
In reality, there would be coalition NDP/Green/Liberal governments some of the time, and quite possibly more than one Conservative party, each of which could also be in coalitions.
If those guys win, we all lose. Have they met America?
I disagree with this; in places where the two first past the post has been done away with there seems to be more parties, leading to more minorities and more coalitions. Sure more right leaning parties may pop up in the west but also more left leaning parties would pop up to. Right now we have two right leaning conservative parties running the government. I really wish the “true” liberals would say bye bye Carney and go to the NDP, but that may be to much to ask of them.
[this system we’re considering] maintains the close connection between voters and their members of Parliament—one that Canadians are familiar with in single-member ridings
Lol. How many people can name their MP?
These arguments don’t hold up to scrutiny, though. In Ireland, PR-STV has worked well, and while it produces coalition governments, these have been stable administrations for decades that regularly run their full term. As for the argument that PR grants extremists and radicals a route into the legislature, to date in Ireland, the far right has failed to make electoral inroads despite the permissiveness of the electoral system. Instead, hyper-local independent candidates have become a staple of the political culture.
That feels like cherrypicking the one counterexample when there’s a ton of straight examples of political fragmentation. Like, pretty much pick any different European country.
[this system we’re considering] maintains the close connection between voters and their members of Parliament—one that Canadians are familiar with in single-member ridings
Lol. How many people can name their MP?
Exactly! More votes matter under PR “[this system we’re considering]”, and so more people would probably be able to name their MP under a PR system
I don’t disagree with you about the cherrypicking thing, although I don’t know enough about PR in other areas to know. I already read today about some right-wing crap in Italy, the other country they mentioned: Italy Blocks Reproductive Health Websites Women on Web (WoW) and Women Help Women (WHW)
People don’t know because their votes don’t matter. It’s because they don’t care, and it doesn’t matter much. In practice we vote for parties.
To be clear, this article is about a very specific kind of PR that keeps representatives. Other kinds, like party list, wouldn’t.
