• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    We have to. Everybody fucked off from all the major platforms and this issue went from something that was defendable to not

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      3 days ago

      TBF the owners of said major platforms are siding with the bigots and selectively enforcing their own TOS with extreme prejudice.

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        2 days ago

        They side with them only because thats who is in charge now. They still answer to money. The algorithms are not just “feed people racist content” it is still controlled by engagent and eyeballs. Yet the left convinced each other to removed ourselves from that equation and then are stunned the algorithms now favor right wing content.

        I don’t fucking understand how people on the left say “they have billions” and then don’t realize that the billions are going to convince the left to leave platforms so they don’t need to spend as much to spread their ideas.

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        2 days ago

        So you say fuck it and abandon everybody else? So you give the hate and harm a better chance to grow and propagated and lie and cheat without resistance?

        I’m fine if you’re not a leftist and you don’t care about MAGA or politics and you just use the internet to look at memes about beans and moths. But if you care about the country, the current state of things, if you hate authoritarians and racists and that women cannot get abortions and you left these platforms then I struggle to form the words to describe how much i despise you. Because MAGA are what they are. Filled with hate and want to watch the world burn. But I expect more from people on the left and to see anyone say this means you know how important it is to stop them and you choose to fuck off.

        It’s like hearing someone who complains about the state of things only to find out they don’t vote.

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          1 day ago

          Honestly? Yes. Trying to fight the growing societal hate is futile and self destructive.

          Help who you can. Be kind to the people in your life. Understand that most comments on the Internet are bots and trolls who want you to be upset.

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            23 hours ago

            It is absolutely not futile. It is the one area that you can truly make an improvement in things. You have only decided that its futile because you cannot be bothered which goes to my point and my anger with people like you. I think the left are being way to easy on people like you. You’re part of the problem.

            I mean your logic is just so insane to me. Bots cost money. Why the fuck would anyone be spending money on bots. It’s because there’s a reason for it. What they need is for you to run away so their bot costs are lower if that’s what you believe. You give them 2 options, realize using bots doesn’t work against an aggressive left or you drive their costs up with each comment

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              22 hours ago

              You have only decided that its futile because you cannot be bothered

              No. That’s not why. More like after 40 years of trying I’ve lost hope. Why would I fight another 40 years? I’ve given up enough life to this.

              Nah, I’m going to rest and accept the world as it is.

        • I’m still personally on socials unfortunately because it’s the only way to get any reach as an artist, but I’m merely explaining why so many vulnerable people hop off of it. That said, your comment is straight up victim blaming.

          The other half of the equation is that the platforms are actively deplatforming leftists. You can’t even bring up genocide without risking a shadowban or just straight up losing your account.

          Hell, a personal example, I got permabanned from Reddit a few years ago for saying that riot police should quit their jobs in shame following Roe v Wade. I still stand by that statement fwiw

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            1 day ago

            If you have socials for art, then you probably understand how it’s basically marketing/advertising and you’re probably paying aware of the double standards of moderation and troll bots.

            Godspeed to you.