I know the US is a shitshow right now but please im looking for sensible answers.

I have some documents from a bank that need to be mailed. PDF is not an option and no matter how much i push for a secure email option, they still stick with slow turtle mail.

I live outside the US and this slow mail process has been very frustrating. And not just banks, any other business if you request some form of paperwork, their answer => MAIL.

That is very weird consider to mail the document, they need to type out an electronic version then print and mail it. So why waste too many steps?

And i just discovered today theres a thing called mailforwarding service… Aka you buy a US mailbox, letter gets sent to that mailbox then they help to forward those internationally.

In contrast to when I am in China and Singapore, EVERYTHING is digital. It is so much better that the only thing i carry is my phone.

  • makeshift0546@lemmy.today
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    4 hours ago

    You have a shitty bank 🤷‍♂️ I haven’t mailed docs ever in my adult life. Seriously I have no idea why you’re mailing shit.

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    To an extent, institutional inertia. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    Adopting new systems brings in a layer of uncertainty, sure maybe there is some upside to the new system, but does it outweigh the risk and cost of overhauling all the dependencies of the old system? Can you be sure that all the relevant stakeholders and partners will be onboard with the new system, or will some reject it and insist on the old system, thus requiring everyone to maintain two standards.

    It’s much easier to adopt a new system when the old system is clearly non-functional and untrustworthy, or when there just wasn’t an earlier system that did that function in a given economic environment. The more important the institution, the more issue it causes if it fails, the more this applies.

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    Building a secure, reliable, accessible and privacy respecting identity management infrastructure would be a monumental task, even if only good-faith actors were involved. Unfortunately, good-faith actors are in very short supply these days. In places like China or Singapore, people have no expectation of privacy to begin with, so it’s easier to build digital services there.

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    7 hours ago

    It is often simply a legal thing. In many countries, laws have clauses for the legality of written notification, but no amendments or specification about how this works for a digital notification.

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    8 hours ago

    What happens if your bank is hacked and it says that you have $1 instead of 10k in the bank? Do you have a paper backup at all? How about your mortgage or car loan?

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      What if it is robbed and the paper is taken? Do they have a digital backup at all?

      A bank should spend the same amount of money on digital security than physical security. I mean, security is the whole point banks exist in the first place and why people trust them.

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    9 hours ago

    I’m in Australia. It is the same here. Everything is digital. I only really check my mailbox maybe once or maybe twice a week, if that, because i so rarely get mail anymore. Everything comes digitally. my welfare stuff, utilities, bills etc.

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    8 hours ago

    While I fully agree thing should be digital (mail or fax are you kidding me?), very few business have secure email set up, especially for PII and health data. And even if they did, most consumers don’t want to deal with setting up encrypted email/PGP keys or anything like that.
    Of course this could be solved with online portals to submit PDFs and things.

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    I am in Poland. We have digital ID and drivers licences that are on par with plastic ones, digital patients portal where we get our prescriptions with QR code, we register and make changes to our business online etc. I never got mail from the bank but from time to time I get paper mail from various institutions - extreamly stupid situation last week - I wrote to the ministry online, via government portal and got answer via traditional mail 🤦‍♂️