As the title suggests, over the last couple of days there’s been an influx of doomer comments over the SKG petition. While it’s fine to disagree, I’m finding it suspicious that there weren’t comments like this posted a week or 2 ago

  • Rakonat@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    There’s always been criticism but until now it’s been low level insiders and nobodies like pirate software. And the reasons the publishers and big names that would be affected did SKGs didn’t say or do anything until now because they didn’t want to give it any oxygen. They were smart enough to ignore it because they knew if they said anything it’d rile up a shift storm. Which is exactly what Pirate Software did so he’s probably got a lot of people on both sides pissed at him for being too narcissistic to shut up and let the movement die.

    Now that it has enough signatures to be taken seriously you’re going to see the fire hoses open up and a lot of misinformation spread about how the movement would make the gaming industry unviable for the current model. Now is the point where if you are an EU citizen that you write and call your representatives who would consider this issue and help write the law if it did pass on how important it would be to you personally to not allow game companies to revoke your ability to utilize a game you paid for.

    • Genius@lemmy.zip
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      6 days ago

      pissed at him for being too narcissistic to shut up and let the movement die.

      You’ve got a typo there. What you meant to write was “pissed at him for struggling with managing the symptoms from his narcissistic personality disorder diagnosis too much to shut up and let the movement die.”

          • tomi000@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            While I am against using illnesses as slurs, I am 99% sure Elon Musk has NPD even if was never officially diagnosed, which he would avoid for obvious reasons. So I wouldnt count this instance as using an illness as a slur.

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              If he does have NPD, then we’re back to the issue that the general population needs to start referring to mental disorders with respectful and empathetic language, because this creates a culture of tolerance that will be visible to other people with the disorder.

          • Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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            5 days ago

            You know hes using a figure of speech right? Are you protesting the usage of narcissism as an unofficial negative descriptor?

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          6 days ago

          Putting the focus on the personal struggle of managing the symptoms is more empathetic, and using the full name of the diagnosis instead of contracted nouns helps avoid using slurs and/or dehumanising the patent.

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            5 days ago

            and using the full name of the diagnosis instead of contracted nouns helps avoid using slurs and/or dehumanising the patent.

            You’ve got a typo there. Unless you can prove that said person was indeed diagnosed with such disability by an appropriate medical authority, let’s not use such term that could either be considered defamation, or at least medical disinformation. (/i)

            People say what they intend to say, not what you wish them to. If you believe they are incorrect, no need to be pedantic about it. Just argue why, you’d find out people are way more open to arguments when they do not feel like you are condidering them as idiots.

            • Genius@lemmy.zip
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              5 days ago

              I don’t think he has NPD at all, I think Rakonat is mistaken to randomly accuse him of mental illness just because they don’t like him.

          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            5 days ago

            Narcissists are literally destroying our planet and our way of life, but let’s make sure we don’t offend anyone when we mention them.

            • Genius@lemmy.zip
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              5 days ago

              Your comment has a typo. You meant to write “human beings who developed narcissistic personality disorder due to childhood trauma and now struggle with identity and empathy to the detriment of their own wellbeing as described in the DSM 5 are literally destroying our planet and our way of life”

  • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Welcome to the age of bots.

    Enjoy your perpetual unavoidable and even undetectable bias and opinion influencing astroturfing.

    Paid for by whoever doesn’t want the things that you want, to influence the people around you to bite at each other’s throats and work against their own interests.

  • Supervisor194@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Because it’s about to affect big money so they sic their bots on it to shape public opinion and stomp it, like everything else.

  • who@feddit.org
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    7 days ago

    I don’t find the absence of criticism suspicious. The petition makes sense. It aims to solve a problem that affects many individuals and a significant part of human culture.

    What I do find suspicious is the sudden emergence of criticism now that it looks like it might succeed. I smell astroturfing and media manipulation.

  • Korkki@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    Does anyone else find it suspicious there wasn’t any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

    Nobody here disagrees with any point of the petition. I signed it. Even if gaming companies were rushing to send shills to raid discussions they would have done it months ago and last places they would go astroturff for is this Kazakhstani anti-whaling forum. Especially when their target now is the Eu bureaucracy and MEPs. Where I might say they have not a bad chance of succeeding.

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    7 days ago

    Maybe he meant me? (Thank god karma doesn’t exist here)

    I just wrote a comment on how it’s interesting from a philosophical angle that we’re willing to petition the preservation of our distractions but not the thing we need ever more distraction from.

    Don’t bother with downvoting, your brothers and sisters already nailed me to the cross, covered me in tar and dragged me through 30km of molten lava.

    I haven’t changed my mind.

    Not a single person I know has significantly changed their behaviour due to the climate emergency. Imagine if we had this kind of rallying support to put an end to fossil fuels tomorrow.

    But that doesn’t directly benefit anyone

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      7 days ago

      The vast majority of people are not contributing significantly to climate change compared to the big players like the oil and gas industries and the big moving industries.

      If you want to make for effective change, stop whining like a street corner crazy picketer and push against those actually doing most of the polluting.

      • kingofras@lemmy.world
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        7 days ago

        See that sounds like a good counter argument on the surface but it is very flawed.

        By just blaming big corporations and pointing the finger, your missing two important factors:

        1. The big corporations do what they do because of consumers like you and me.
        2. by shifting responsibility and effectively saying it’s okay to pass the buck, you’re telling people it’s okay to not have this front and center every day.

        As much as I like blaming big corporations, we got here (and every point in human history before us) because of what the masses did or neglected to do.

        So as inconvenient as it must be, until we pop out of this us vs them, the corporation expected lifespans can be centuries, human’s are finite, and if you keep that whataboutism alive, will get a lot shorter soon.

        • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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          6 days ago

          Tell me you do not understand how the economy works without telling me you do not understand how the economy works…

          Personal consumers haven’t driven the oil industry for decades upon decades by now. Please learn how massive corporations function before you continue to embarass yourself.

  • stoly@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Are people criticizing it? There is a certain critical mass that when something becomes popular enough a subset of the population will automatically oppose it.

    • hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      There’s also a threshold where Industry Groups will start astroturfing. Especially when it comes to worker’s rights or consumer’s rights.

  • Mister Neon@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I haven’t seen anyone here against it.

    Ross got hit with some anonymous legal complaint so I wouldn’t be surprised with astroturfing.

    I’m also an American so I can’t help.

    • dinckel@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      The entire complaint was based on nothing too. They claimed he’s orchestrating some crazy financial scheme, and getting paid 6 digits from it, when he’s not only doing it for free, but can’t even participate in the initiative to begin with