Israel has shown itself perfectly willing to murder journalists from any country for any reason they deem fit. I think CBC did properly enough to the extent that the Canadian government can offer protection.
I watched that segment. I remember them saying very clearly that Israel didn’t allow them to film it. So you know what they did? They showed footage from the ground, and didn’t mince words as to how horrific things were. They showed the landscape, where barely anything is standing. They showed people digging through the ground looking for spilled kernels. There was absolutely no way you could watch that report and not understand the insanity of what is going on there.
In fact, anyone who follows CBC’s news coverage has no reason to not understand the depths of the horrors happening in Gaza, or in Palestine in general. They don’t shove it into the corner. They place it center stage. Again, and again, and again. As if to say, “don’t forget what is happening here”.
The CBC definitely has its faults, but this article is blowing things way, way out of proportion.
I agree. I watch CBC Vancouver News everyday and even for a local edition they are dedicating time to point out the relevant facts. Yesterday they had a segment on the hugely high fatality rates of journalists and interviewees didn’t pull any punches, explicitly stating that Israel’s behavior is intent on getting rid of the witnesses of a massacre. They compared the death of journalists to other wars to show this is not “normal” or just “accidents”. Dare I say it was a pretty decent and damning report.
Yup, I saw that one as well after I left this comment. It showed really well not only that this is the largest number of journalists killed in such a conflict, but by really, really far. And did it in a way that shocked even me.
On the one hand… this is obviously to prevent the world from seeing how Israel has carpet bombed civilian neighborhoods. Footage I imagine is censored amongst the Israeli populace.
On the other, Israel has demonstrated they will murder anyone who threatens to expose them. If the Canadian government isn’t going to push back on what is effectively a veiled threat… well it’s is not my place to demand those journalists risk/sacrifice their lives beyond their own volition.
I do think CBC needs to have a public transparency division. The catch-22 of a government funded broadcasting entity is of course bias and corruption. As such the CBC should be tasked to maintain an open door relationship with Canadians concerning funding, coverage, and other issues of importance.
I really respect what you’re saying in this thread.
The thing is the ITV broadcasters just ignored that order and took footage anyways.
IMO the decision to listen to the genocidal fascists was made because there are people in the CBC that support israels genocide.
That’s a nothingburger of a statement. Clearly the Palestinian genocide persists because support for it has infected institutions all over the world. Calling the CBC complicit is a correlation>causation fallacy and just plain ridiculous. CBC is not the ones bombing and sniping innocent Palestinians.
Also it’s survivorship bias to allege that because ITV did it no problem, the CBC was in the wrong for adhering the direct instructions of an airbase commander; who could personally have had them shot down.
End of the day it’s not your life to risk. That decision belongs to the journalists in the plane and their direct supervisor responsible for their safety.
Conflating self preservation to complacency in genocide is ludicrous. Especially when that accusation is leveled towards the individuals risking their lives to expose said genocide.
CBC and every other news outlet. So what?
So you are ok with complicity as long as it’s not directly parcipating in the genocide?
Wow what a disingenuous bad faith question.
I’m pointing out the CBC is hardly the worst or only offender.
But congrats on using the topic of genocide to setup a perfect reddit dunk. Real winner move.
Whatever it is the worse or not they are one the offender.
Clearly the Palestinian genocide persists because support for it has infected institutions all over the world. Calling the CBC complicit is a correlation>causation fallacy and just plain ridiculous.
Do you really not see that these 2 sentences are inherently contradictory? They are an institution. Ever heard of the Fourth Estate? They are complicit, just like all Canadian institutions and, like you say, institutions globally. Why would Israel even order them not to film if their filming wouldn’t affect support for the genocide?
You say that this decision was made by a small group of people in the interest of safety when that is simply false. It was an order directly from Israel and enforced by Jordanian officials; an order that other publications, including the BBC, did not follow and yet their journalists are safe. Additionally, the Jordanian plane that the CBC journalists were on was immediately followed by a Canadian military plane, so shooting the plane down would’ve constituted an act of war against both Jordan and Canada and left the door open for a counterattack.
Lack of coverage of the occupation (and now genocide) of Palestine by CBC has been a systemic issue well before 7 October 2023 and the choice to ignore it was made, over and over, without any direct threat to journalists’ safety, for many years. You are free to look this up, it’s a national shame that we should all be upset about.
You say that this decision was made by a small group of people in the interest of safety when that is simply false.
Well I didn’t know that. I stand corrected.
it’s a national shame that we should all be upset about.
We are. I am.
Just like how you conflated my use of the word “infected” to mean “complicit” I generally assume people lashing out at the CBC want it to be defunded / eliminated entirely.
My concern is that while the CBC has problems, once it’s gone we’ll have nothing left but privately owned, and heavily right wing biased media.
If you’re infected with Zionism, you’re complicit in my view. I think we just have different perspectives.
I love what the CBC provides for all of us, but it can and should improve. This is truly shameful in light of the last few years, but they have gotten away with ignoring oppression for way, way too long; it’s not even just Palestine. But I don’t want CBC gone.
Journalism in Canada is full of corporate, neoliberal nepo-babies - they can all do better, especially the American- and conservative-owned ones. I would have just as much ire for any other publication that bent the knee for a genocidal government.
infected with Zionism
What does that even mean though? That’s an individualistic value judgement. How can you realistically attribute that to a national organization? Is the 22 year old recently graduated journalism student responsible for the decisions of the CBC leadership? Obviously not.
Free, independent, and transparent press is fundamental to the type of society we want to live in. I find it deeply concerning that people will pin the blame on the CBC as a whole without digging any deeper into the individuals inside and behind the CBC.
We don’t improve the CBC by allowing our national institution to become scapegoats for zionists.
Zionism has a definition. I mean it literally.
If, like you say, it’s a series of individuals who are making these choices, they must have so much influence that they are effectively casting a shadow on the entire organization. I think that is a flaw of the organization itself. Again, different perspectives.
