Might help also to describe what you think feminism is, since it’s one of those terms that is overloaded.

I once had a physical therapist tell me she wasn’t a feminist because she thought women couldn’t be as physically capable as men when serving as soldiers, and seemed to believe feminism requires treating women exactly like men.

I told her I was a feminist because I believe in equal rights for men and women, an idea she did not seem so opposed to.

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    doors can’t consent to have your keys jammed in them either. the very concept of consent can’t be applied to cows or doors.

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      Cows are sentient, you comparing them to objects is exactly the kind of shit feminism fights against.

      If a human had the same intelligence as a cow do you think it would be okay to SA them?

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        20 days ago

        If a human had the same intelligence as a cow

        I haven’t said anything about intelligence, or suggested sa is ever ok.

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          Sentience has to do with among many other things, the ability to suffer. These cows suffer because they are SA, have their kids stolen from them and have their lives cut short only to end in some place worse than hell.

          So no sentience does have something to do with consent because only with sentience does consent matter. I don’t need to ask a tree consent to cut it down because it does not feel anything. I do need to ask other individuals for consent because they can suffer.

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            19 days ago

            consent and sentience are totally unrelated concepts. your response only continues to muddy the waters.

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              Sentience plus communication is literally the recipe for consent. So, yes, it does have a lot to do with it.

              Cows are sentient and can suffer. They are nothing like doors. It upsets me that you even compare them to inanimate objects. It’s disgusting that you think we can use them, and compare the SA that happens to them like putting a key in a door.

              They don’t want some random human forcibly shoving their fist inside of them. They’re as smart as human toddlers, and have just as much capacity to suffer.

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                18 days ago

                They are nothing like doors

                they are exactly like doors in the ways that matter for this conversation. it’s absurd to discuss consent from them.