• ModCen@feddit.uk
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    It’s crazy that Trump is rejecting America’s loyal allies. Soldiers from these allies fought and died in Afghanistan and Iraq, under American leadership. Instead Trump is inviting dictators to his “Board of Peace” such as Putin and Lukashenko.

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      Putins aim is to literally destroy NATO and its allies by shaking their trust networks and bringing them into other blocs. His lead henchman/puppet is happy to oblige

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        True. Some people think that Russia controls Trump in some way, but maybe it’s just that Trump has always had a desire to make friends with autocrats, and the Russians recognised that, so they did what they could to boost his chances of becoming president.

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          maybe it’s just that Trump has always had a desire to make friends with autocrats

          Simpler is to just bash colonies for not being grateful and submissive enough. Easy war to win. It is a huge disservice to colonies to engage in (fully CIA driven) Russophobia propaganda, because their political capital is tied to all previous supported US empire lies.

          Carney’s speech was great, but no colony, including Canada, has reversed its acceptance of a single US empire lie since then.

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            (fully CIA driven) Russophobia propaganda

            There are genuine reasons to be wary of Russia. Russia is currently invading Europe, causing a horrific amount of death and destruction in Ukraine. Russia has also been sending assassins across Europe to kill dissidents - e.g. the assassins sent to England to poison Sergei Skripal, and the assassin sent to Germany to shoot Zelimkhan Khangoshvili.

            Trump is predatory, but I would say Putin is even more predatory. At least Trump isn’t (yet) sending assassins to murder dissidents.

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              Ukraine is a US proxy war on Russia 100% decided by US. EU is supporting the lie and fanning Russophobia through BS in desperation of keeping the war going for 0 benefit to them. Tieing your prosperity and happiness to war on Russia will turn out as well as it did for followers of Napoleon and Hitler. The good relations that existed prior to 2022, other than covid, made US colonies more prosperous.

              At least Trump isn’t (yet) sending assassins to murder dissidents.

              Bribed traitors with operational knowledge to damage genuine national security/military are far more valid targets than Gary Webb, JFK, MLK, 9/11, Jeffrey Epstein, or Boeing whisteblowers.

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                Ukraine is a US proxy war on Russia

                The US didn’t make Ukraine invade Russia to start the conflict. Instead, Russia (unprovoked) invaded Crimea and the Donbas in 2014.

                Tieing your prosperity and happiness to war on Russia

                I don’t think Europe at all wants to have a fight with Russia. People just want Russia to stop attacking Ukraine.

                The good relations that existed prior to 2022

                Russia’s relations with Europe were torn up by Russia, when they invaded Crimea and the Donbas in 2014.

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                  The US didn’t make Ukraine invade Russia to start the conflict. Instead,

                  2014 coup with installed US puppet government broke lease with Russian military port in Crimea, and began ethnic cleansing operation against its ethnic Russian minority. Russia pursued for 8 years a peaceful resolution through Minsk accords, which west used only as a delay tactic to arm Ukrainian nazi regime for war on Russia. To this day, EU/Canada losers desperately derail any peace in Ukraine and support nazi regime’s perpetual terrorist operation rights. So, yes, all NATO colonies are trying to sell you prosperity through war on Russia, and doing so, based on the lies you repeat.

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                    2014 coup with installed US puppet government

                    Ukraine’s parliament democratically voted to remove Yanukovych from power. A new presidential election was held, and Poroshenko democratically won.

                    ethnic cleansing operation against its ethnic Russian minority

                    Please present evidence for this allegation. Russia claims Ukraine was committing genocide against ethnic Russians, but I’ve never seen any evidence for this claim. The UN’s court said: “the Court is not in possession of evidence substantiating the allegation of the Russian Federation that genocide has been committed on Ukrainian territory”.

                    Russia pursued for 8 years a peaceful resolution through Minsk accords, which west used only as a delay tactic to arm Ukrainian nazi regime for war on Russia.

                    Russia for years has tried to subjugate Ukraine. Why can’t Russia just leave Ukraine alone? As for Ukraine being a “nazi regime”, how is that true? Do you have evidence to show that Ukraine is systematically murdering Jews, like the Nazis did? No you don’t. Zelenskyy himself is Jewish. If Ukraine were a Nazi state, they would have put Zelenskyy in a death camp, instead of electing him as president.

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                Ukraine is a US proxy war on Russia 100% decided by US

                I guess Ukrainians should’ve just rolled over when russians tried to take Kyiv.

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      Soldiers from these allies fought and died in Afghanistan and Iraq

      And that’s why alienating from the US is good for them.