• Dvixen@lemmy.world
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    Props to Grannycrackers for handling the aftermath with such grace and humour. Not sure I would be half as composed as her. (Or half as chuffed at getting to ride in a police car.) Hope she smashes her fundraising target.

    Looking forwards to the news of the arrest of the no-lifer who swatted her.

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      Yeah. The best possible outcome after a situation like this is the victim not being harmed in any way, so the perpetrator is denied the satisfaction of causing harm.

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    Is she using X-ray and macros or something to cheat at Minecraft? Seeing very little discussion of the video.

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    Funny how these supposedly specialized police officers have such a cool name, SWAT, because of course they do because it’s the US and they have to look and sound cool and do cool stuff.

    Never mind that they supposed to be serving and protecting the citizens

    I know these specialized teams also exist in other countries. What are they called there? No fucking idea, but it ain’t cool because in those countries, those guys are actually the real deal and they don’t need cool nicknames or military equipment, they are there to do a job.

    Fuck, the US always was such a shit show, why are you people allowing police to be so fucking put of control?

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      why are you people allowing police to be so fucking put of control?

      Two issues. One is that some asshole did a fraudulent call and police had to respond.

      Other is that due to gun proliferation they can take it lightly and have to assume the worst

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      I can’t speak for anywhere else, but here in Canada, emergency response team is not a full time job (except in the largest metro areas). Members do regular police work until an emergency.

      And even if the cities with full time ERT, they rarely respond as a full team. They are often dispatched to assist constables for other duties. It’s very rare for a full rollout of a tactical ERT team here. And even more rare that shots are fired.

      Edit: I am in no way a police expert, but I learned a lot when I worked on a rollout of a body camera program.

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    How the fuck is swatting even a thing?

    Can just anyone call the police, yell “BOMB AT X ADDRESS!” and they just show up, tear down doors and throw you to the ground???

    All, without repercussions???

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      Not only without repercussions, but without reparations. Anything destroyed or damaged is on the owner to replace/fix, including the pile of splinters formerly known as “door”.

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      In my state there is a law that makes false call to 911 a criminal offense. If someone says “there is a bomb” on such call, that makes it more serious offence because this will cause public alarm. If the person making such call is stupid enough to do it from their phone, they will likely be identified and prosecuted. And people doing stupid things tend to be that stupid.

      I’m not sure about damages caused by the raid, though. SWAT doesn’t know if the threat is real or not, so they can’t be held liable. Probably the victim can sue the caller, if they’ve been found…

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        How about the police do, idk, like 5 min of police work to verify literally any part of the story first?

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          Exactly, like asking “is the caller even in the same area? Who lives there? Is this place usually agitated?” Which seems like they would need to know before going in anyway…

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      What else are they going to do with all of that excessive money and time…and desire to shoot people?

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    Reminder that SWAT was created in response to the black panthers. It’s a Jim Crow tool for dealing with uppity blacks that know their rights.

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    Info about Grandma Crackers’ fundraisers for her grandson’s cancer treatment and Phoenix Children’s Hospital.

    https://thegrandmafund.com/

    They also created a crypto token where the fees go to the previously mentioned fundraisers.

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        Love it how banks managed to convince everyone that crypto is bad, so they can stay rich and in power of controlling your money.

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          banks managed to convince everyone

          I don’t think banks have been in charge of the countless pump and dump crypto schemes in recent years. And Bankman-Fried (despite his name) wasn’t running a bank.

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    Just here to point out that it’s not normal for a military response to some rando calling in a hit on someone’s house.

    A normal response is a check by a single police car with two officers. One to knock on the door and ask questions. The other to remain with the vehicle to call in any issues.

    This is a police state.

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      21 hours ago

      They probably reported to the operator an excess of melanin at the residence.

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      It really depends on what the call in was.

      If someone says there’s an active threat and their life is in danger, sending 1 car would would be gross negligence and a danger to the officers.

      Now, this call, seems excessive. I dont know what would warrant that response even if it was an active threat.

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        Yeah, you send one car first and have the other ready. It’s insane to send 20 cars instantly for an unverified anonymous tip. Idc if the caller said there’s an army of cannibals killing dozens of people, it’s still an unverified anonymous tip. If it’s real you’ll get more phone calls or the first car will radio it in.

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        That’s an argument to be made, but I don’t believe that is true at all. Sending one car to check on the safety/welfare of one active threat seems an entirely reasonable balance of risk. An unverified active threat is not at all the same as a confirmed active threat. That should be obvious simply by the existence of “swatting” as a common term and act these days.

        It is not the duty of police to protect people from eminent harm, they have argued this themselves in court. Their job is strictly punitive, again an argument they have made in court many times. They only pretend to “protect and serve” when it suits their agenda of justification for their over inflated budgets. This isn’t a public safety issue. It’s a class warfare issue.

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    Another side benefit to The Drug War, the gift that keeps on giving.

    Hundreds of thousands of people are sitting in jails and prisons right now for using. Over three hundred thousand on any given day.

    https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2026_drugs.html

    This holdover from the Nixon era gets a little worse every year. Why do we have TWENTY cars available for any random prank caller?

    Are we safe yet?

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      Don’t you feel fine having what is essentially a para military forced within the USA whose intention is to protect property and not people at all? I know I sure as shit don’t.

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    Takes a special kind of asshole to swat a little old lady for trying to host a wholesome gaming stream for a good cause.

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      The fact that swating still happens just proves how much of a joke policing is in general. The fact that you can get a bunch of gun-wielding adrenaline junkies to show up somewhere, frothing at the mouth for violence, in the most spurious of ways is a damning indictment for the whole institution.

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        I still believe that “defund the police”, is the correct choice. The whole damn thing has to go.

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          If you don’t have someone authorized by the state to enforce laws, you’re still going to get people enforcing “laws”, it’s just going to be vigilantes, people with grudges, etc. Just look how frequently you see incidents of road rage. Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.

          Take all those incidents of people calling the cops on black men having a picnic or taking their dogs for a walk. If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?

          I think the US needs to scale its policing way back. It needs mental health specialists to respond to certain kinds of calls. The person who responds to a report of a stolen bike probably shouldn’t have a gun. But, at some point you are going to need people who will use physical force to enforce the law. Those people should be heavily supervised by a truly independent body. But, they still need to exist in some form.

          • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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            Yeah for people downvoting this, cops being a problem is largely an American thing. In many other places around the world they are actually beneficial.

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              Yeah, Thunberg was definitely arrested in America. Just, uh, don’t google it.

              Cops can be amenable with enough controls, sure, but they ultimately serve capital, man.

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            Cops basically exist to prevent people from taking revenge into their own hands.

            No, cops exist to protect capital.

            This is just one example too, they’ve issued multiple similar rulings. Also, uh, see: Uvalde.

            If there were no cops, do you think these white “Karens” would just leave the black men alone? Or do you think they’d get together and lynch them?

            …you think cops keep black people safe? Are you being remotely serious here?

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            Yeah, this is what a lot of people fail to take into account when it comes to the purpose of policing in society. There’s obviously a lot of inherent problems with the way the police are structured in many countries as a whole, but to believe that we can just make do without something like them altogether is pretty shortsighted to say the least. I think that prevents a lot of otherwise sympathetic people from taking the backlash against police institutions seriously.

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              Yea it’s funny how they just angry downvote, and if they reply at all, they don’t really respond to the points. Who will do the fucking policing if there’s no police??? There will always be people who need to be forcefully stopped from what they’re doing.

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                I think the idea generally is to replace the police with social welfare programs and unarmed crisis responders, but that’s jumping through so many hoops that it just sounds way too simplistic tbh. It sounds practical, but it treats the problem like it’s something that can be improved with just a few institutions reforming/being abolished.

                There’s never been a society without some form of justice system since cruelty is a part of human nature, and at this point these systems are far too intertwined and embedded in our societies for them to change dramatically without some form of societal collapse or retraction.

                Idealism is well and good but the things many want in place of police institutions seem like they’re ignoring how complex and non-specific the issues are as a whole. It’s definitely not a one size fits all situation, especially with how many factors there are. People can disagree with me but I’d prefer to hear why at least, there are probably things I’m not considering here.

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          Probably shoot you and the aggressor since keeping themselves safe is the priority in their training.

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      It doesn’t say. I did find another article that says it’s for her grandson’s cancer treatment so it might be an ongoing thing.

      EDIT: I found this. Looks like she also donates money to Phoenix Children’s Hospital

      https://thegrandmafund.com/