• Soup@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      Unfortunately, he keeps siding with the US and against the Canadian working class.

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        His stances are confusing. He seems to be opposed and pissing Trump off at times but kissing his ass the next. Carney is a hard right banker and still has the sign up that he says we must acknowledge was always a lie.

        His support for the Iran war could be that he genuinely believes it, as Iran is opposed to western hegemony and thus is a threat to western banks (that he has devoted his life to), but just so much other shit like the privacy and civil rights erosion bills that also work hand in hand with US corporations and authorities make me wonder if his opposition to annexation is sincere or he is just hoping it is a purely Trump thing and when the old orange bastard finally dies his successors will want business as usual (all bowing to the false sign idol he condemned at Davos) and they can continue dismantling everything for the top 0.1%, with a bone tossed to the remaining middle class that will no longer be more than 10% and keep the rest a permanent underclass.

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    The USA literally declared economic warfare on Canada, and made multiple threats to Canadian sovereignty.

    How is that anything but a war-level action?

    Canada is acting out of survival. Like an abused wife, we are doing everything we can to get out the door, while keeping a smile on to placate to this egomaniac in the Whitehouse.

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      I’m sorry, isolationism by the US is not “war” no matter how much the media tries to use that specifically terminology.

      And neither is it an excuse for centralizing power, making partisan appointments when they’ve historically been democratic, or running up a war budget when a quarter of the population can’t afford food on the table.

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        Venezuela is being run by Rubio as a Banana Republic, except with oil. The president is talking openly about annexing us. Do the math.

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          Yes, and Iran invasion, and Cuba blockade, etc…

          Again, we are not at open war (bullets flying, missiles dropping) for us to not care if centralization of power or when subverting parts of our democracy is happening.

          The premise of the post and article is centralization of power as if it’s wartime, and we’re not at active war.

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        I agree that it’s only a “war” in the sense like a “price war”, not an actual war. But it’s still open aggression and falls on the same gradient.

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          If we’re willing to abandon Democratic principles when war (actual battle) hasn’t even been declared, then I don’t see much hope for what will be left of our current democracy when/if that happens.

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        Did we forget the whole “join us, voluntarily or not” rhetoric coming from the White House? That language alone was a threat of war. Actual war. Like, with tanks and shit.

        Carney is engaging in disaster capitalism, and must be called out for that. But let’s not forget the disaster part.

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          Well I’m just glad that someone is mentioning disaster capitalism and that really is my main point to the premise of this post about centralization of power.

          My “war” in quotations was about the economic war. Trump’s posturing is fucked up, aggressive, and definitely threatening; and he was betting on Canada buying weapons from the US for protection like Denmark is doing.

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        USA is not being isolationist.

        They initiated regime change in Venezuela in January and invaded Iran in February.

        They’re also actively participating in trade talks.

        You need to re-evaluate your opinions on things if you’re operating on such misconceptions.

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        You can reframe the point all you want. Bottom line is trump laid a wide suite of tariffs against Canada to create a win lose dynamic.

        Its has direct negative impacts on the canadian economy and it was every bit intentional to do exactly that.

        Trump attacked Canada, full stop.

        Nice how you manage to conveniently gloss over his direct threats to canadian sovereignty.

        And remember I said economic war, never suggested there was military involvement.

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          My friend, the point is he’s governing as if it’s a military war by centralizing the power of government. If you were looking at a different country and saw the same actions, you would judge their leadership a lot more harshly

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            Even if they are, so what?

            If you were looking at a different country that was actively being bullied, would you argue some crap about centralizing power?

            If Denmark started centralizing power in response to trumps threats to the sovereignty of greenland, then what?

            You talk like this is a problem that government is responding to external existential threats in the means that are available to them.

            Are you arguing the Carney government should relinquish power?

            Should they decentralize their capacity to influence things inside the country?

            Perhaps you can answer just this.

            What is your point?

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              Um…its not a choice of centralization or decentralization of power. What? Those aren’t the only choices!

              Point: The choice is don’t go against the Democratic process and principles.

              Like when he made a partisan appointment to roles of governance

              https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mark-carney-senate-tom-pitfield-9.7261037

              Prime minister ends Trudeau-era policy of nonpartisan appointments

              Following that thread, him appointing Martel to open another seat in that riding which Carney is betting goes to a liberal seat

              https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/politics/2026/07/07/pm-carney-poaches-conservative-mp-in-latest-batch-of-senate-appointments/

              On the one hand, the Prime Minister gets to say that he’s non-partisan by appointing a Conservative to the Senate. On the other hand, creating an opening in Chicoutimi—Le Fjord creates a situation where the Liberals can win another seat

              The liberal majority can already pass laws through with little discussion as we’ve seen with bill c-22 unfortunately. The majority is a democratically given centralization, for sure, but passing laws undemocratically and making partisan appointments is not the right way.

              And Denmark didn’t centralize their government if you want to use that example. They increased spending, sure, but didn’t go against political norms.

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                I’m sorry, but when you use ‘historically’ to refer to a policy that was enacted for less than a decade in a country that is over a century and a half old it reduces your credibility for me.

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                My point is that existential threats override real concern about incremental gains in administrative power by the government. I used Denmark as a hypothetical and parallel example of a country that could centralize given the same condiitons, threats to sovereignty, not anything to do with what theyre actually doing.

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                  If this is how we’re rolling over with the “existential threat” of Trump going back and forth about a 51st state, the hell is going to happen if/when an actual war breaks out?

                  That’s literally why the article is titled the way it is. War powers as if its wartime. But its not wartime.

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    People declaring “it is wartime” are ignoring he is using this to destroy the planet faster and throw indigenous rights in the trash.

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      And he is also trying to force legislation through that are utterly destroying civil rights and privacy rights in Canada and increasing data sharing on Canadians with US firms like palantir and others. If his intention was to make it harder for the US to invade and quash resistance then he is doing a terrible job of it.

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        Exactly this. I understand that sometimes freedoms need to be traded off for security. However the freedoms we are giving up are making our security worse and not better. Canada is still a consequence free society thats being manipulated by mass propaganda. We are only making those abilities stronger.

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    If he was governing like it’s wartime, where’s the explosion of social and affordable housing?

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      That was all post war policies to address the shortages from people migrating to urban centers.

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    Not a fan of him but imo his best quality is being reasonable on an international stage.

    Still think Trudeau was better

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    I’m getting increasingly uncomfortable with François-Philippe Champagne’s record… There may not be proof of personal corruption, but there are enough conflict-of-interest and oversight concerns that people should be paying closer attention: the Alto situation involving his partner, federal funding received by his father’s company while a conflict screen was supposedly in place, and the massive SDTC governance failure under his department.

    Now the government is eliminating the Underused Housing Tax and the luxury tax on private aircraft and expensive vessels.

    Who benefits from that? Foreign owners of underused Canadian homes, wealthy buyers of private planes and yachts, and the industries selling those assets. Ordinary Canadians receive little or no direct benefit, while the government gives up hundreds of millions in revenue.

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      Joly is pretty bad too. When Amazon workers successfully unionized in Quebec, it’s her brothers company that’s stepped in and been the scabs.

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          Sorry I am not one of the cool Lemmys but what does .ml have to do with it? I think it is a TLD but whats wrong wrong with .ml servers?

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            Just in case that’s a real question, the mods of, and the vast majority of subscribers to lemmy.ml have a weird counter-factual view of the world usually referred to (pejoratively) as “tankies”. ML is the domain chosen because it (also) stands for marxist-leninist.

            Tankies seem to think that Russia continues the USSR’s fight for communism which isweird given Russia is a kleptocratic dictatorship closer to the US model than socialist let alone communist.

            They do, accurately, view the US as one of the primary threats to world peace, but then indulge in all sorts of odd double think to make reality look like their desire for an imminent communist conversion of the world driven by mother russia.

            The ability to pretend Putain is anything other than a fascist dictator puzzles me, but anyway:

            TL;DR

            LEMMY.ML predominently equals tankies with a tenuous grasp of reality

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              Yes it was a real question, thank you for the answer. I am a little further to the left than socialist beliefs but I also know the world is still suffering through capitalism.

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        i wish hehe

        canada is just as imperialist and nazi as the great imperialist states of america, theyre just as guilty of neocolonialism as the eu