I think a digital services tax may be in order
Repeal Canada’s DMCA harmonization.
I’m not an IT person, but there has to be options for at the very least government to move away from Microsoft and google. We surely have IT people here in Canada, make it a national security tie, which it is, and develop our own tools. We need to stop relying on the Americans all together.
And an export tax on potash and oil.
And electricity.
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You guys understand that in this trade war, those 3 things are your nuclear options, right?
You don’t start by using your strongest weapons first. Because if those don’t stop the war, what then? And, how would the Americans respond?
Better to have those in reserve, ready to be deployed. Make the other side worry that you could use them, and use that strength to aid in negotiations. Treat them as actual nuclear weapons. As a deterrent.
Nah, at this point the other nations should go Va Banque with their sanctions, and embargo until the USA collapses into +/- 50 independent countries. Toxic relationships deserve to have their bridges permanently burnt, no “another chance” just to be fooled once again.
Sometimes, when the other side has the attention span of a toddler, it’s necessary to remind them from time to time that the nuclear options exist, even if you don’t plan to use them.
They could do some pretty asymmetric stuff. Order tne entire government off Xitter and Facebook for instance.
Maybe the fucking Canadian paper can link copies of the PM’s statements rather than a link to Shitter-X. The PM’s office typed the dam statements out as a press release AND also posted them to Shitter-X. So the actual messages are out there.
Wow I found them. They have a whole bunch of them. Almost bike they are a professionally run office and not a child spamming stuff on social media for likes.
sooooo US alcoholic off shelves again?
I hope so.
Personally, I don’t buy the stuff. Never really did. But I love how the Americans get bent out of shape over us not selling it.
A telling excerpt from the PMO statement:
“They [Canada’s negotiators] have worked hard, in good faith, to defend the interests of Canadians throughout these negotiations up until the very last minute. However, last-minute changes in the U.S. proposed terms were unfair, uneconomic, and called into question the reliability of any deal.”
I sense that Team Donnie Dementia can’t keep themselves from renegotiating their own deal before it’s even made.
It was always going to be that. You can’t negotiate or trust who continuously bargains in bad faith and readjusts goalposts. We’re not a fucking vassal state!
They thought we’d be so desperate to sign a deal to avoid tariffs that we’d just sign whatever the asked at the 11th hour.
What a wild day… this morning the news was that we were about to give in to a lot of stuff and we were mad at carney
Now it seems the PM has shown he has a spine and seemingly redeemed himself
Only the idiots were “mad at Carney”. That was all fake rumours and grandstanding by American media outlets. It was never released about what was in the deal.
Rumour. Let’s not call that news.
All right, Carney got saved from himself
Remember that all of the “Carney gonna surrender” newspapers are US owned.
Or is he one of those rare politicians who listens to the people of the country and shifted gears accordingly? While some will suffer and some will despise the lack of a deal, most Canadians are collectively digging in for the long haul in a show of support.
Oh absolutely. Any concession to the US is greeted with contempt and further demands.
Or is he one of those rare politicians who listens to the people of the country
Ha! Unless he’s been replaced by the pod people in the past couple of weeks I do not think that is likely. I would be betting on Trump doing what he always does rather than Carney doing what he always doesn’t.
Cool, so what we already knew was going to happen, happened.
Colour me shocked. Glad to know we wasted so much time trying to negotiate with what may as well be a bunch of shit-flinging apes when we could have been putting more focus in more deals with the EU, establishing CANZUK, and literally any other endeavour that doesn’t include the U.S…
It’s not a waste of time. We need to do what we diplomatically can (while making other plans).
How is it not a waste of time? What value could come from negotiating with someone whose entire brand is “I make and break deals all day, everyday”? We waste time and effort of actually useful people on our side, while they fling shit whether we show up or not.
You’re stuck in the past. “Dealing” with the US is a waste of resources, including time. That country might as well be gone until / unless they somehow redeem themselves, which is going to take GENERATIONS, not years.
I think the idea was more, if we could patch something together with the people who were actually negotiating (not Trump, he doesn’t have the ability to look at anything in detail) and get it to hold for six months or so, that would be six months more to diversify our export markets. In other words, our government has been trying to buy time. Which didn’t work this time.
Whether buying time for some of the industries under threat is justified is a whole 'nother crottle of greeps, but the pressure there is coming mostly from small subsets of the Canadian electorate, not from Americans.
Politically, Carney needs to signal to voters that Trump is the reason we can’t get a good deal, not the Liberals. You and I already know that, but my conservative voting parents don’t. If Carney had walked away day 1, many voters would be thinking that maybe the Conservatives could get us a good deal.
I think there was other value too - I think if we had walked away months ago, tariffs like this would have been imposed even sooner. Delaying tariffs like this is providing real value for Canadian exporters at the relatively cheap cost of some politicians’ time.
You can’t really do anything diplomatic when the other side continually showcases they lack any respect for diplomacy whatsoever.
The moment the man in charge literally called himself an idiot when asking who’d ever sign a deal like CUSMA, it was an admission that they don’t care. We got hit with tariffs for reasons that weren’t based on facts. We got rid of the digital services tax as a concession already. We already had the CRTC roll back a decision to triple financial contributions to Canadian content from online streaming services. Then came the Gordie Howe Bridge dispute where we made concessions for tolls on a bridge we paid for. We were going to concede even more with the removal of alcohol bans.
Yet, it’s just now that Carney and the Liberals realise that this isn’t worth it? Any progressive in this country could have told you this from the get go.
Not wrong, but it’s hard to ignore the shit flinging apes that have been our most natural trading partner since we share the largest land border on earth.
It is unfortunate to have to spend as much energy as it requires to maintain even a semblance of care for it though
