In particular, the government is proposing a new housing partnership directly with Manitoba, investing $1 billion through Build Canada Homes. The money will go to transitional housing and wraparound services – personalized supports that aim to address overlapping issues — in Winnipeg, and to building 2,000 new transitional and permanent supportive housing units in the city.

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    Hrm, the housing minister Gregor Robertson promised something similar when he was mayor of Vancouver, and homelessness just got worse.

    I’m pretty skeptical, but I guess we’ll see.

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      I have no doubt that it’s a difficult problem to tackle, especially right now when the cost of living is ballooning out of control.

      I think MB’s approach has been promising, but it will probably run into some severe road blocks once they run out of relatively cheap buildings they can buy and convert into housing.

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    I get that it’s not a simple issue to fix overnight, but a politician saying they have a plan to do it “in 10 years” feels like a very convenient timeline that they may or may not be in office to see to the end. So it they get ousted from office before then they can just be like “oh well see we had more plans in place but now we won’t get to finish those” when they failed to fix the problem before then.

    Don’t propose a grand decade long plan, just fucking take steps to improve things right now. Tax the wealth class, stop catering to landlords. Fund and build some goddamn addiction and mental health facilities. This shit can happen pretty quickly if people in power actually care enough.

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      It’s a bit of a damned if you do/damned if you don’t situation.

      Personally, I think all government initiatives should come with concrete timelines and milestones against which to measure progress, but there are loads of reasons governments are reluctant to do so, for reasons that are both understandable and often selfish.

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      if every politician combined Federally and provincially builds one single affordable house, I will be shocked.

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    that’s a safe timeline when you have no intention to do anything. Even Carney knows he won’t be PM in 10 years from now.

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      Well he didn’t say 20 years. I feel we’ve all been trained by media to understand that ‘in 20 years’ means never.

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      We’ve spent 30 years 60 years literally the entire nation’s history to create and reinforce the cycle of poverty, it seems like it should be cleaned up in, oh, I dunno, 3-4 months? Sorry, I realize that’s a little too slow for the average voter.

      Nothing is ever good enough… this is the second largest line item on the whole ass budget and includes halfway house funding and supported community housing initiatives. Long term solution for a long term problem or whatever.

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      The Liberal Party has been in power for the last 11 years. Why shouldn’t they plan to govern for 10 years at a time?

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        The other way to see it is that the Liberal party has been power for the last 11 years and barely done fucking anything. We STILL don’t have voting reform and they ran on that as a near single-issue in 2015. Nowadays they spend their energy rat-fucking our environment, handing huge sums of money to private corporations, and going after union actions.

        The LPC doesn’t give a fuck about the working class.

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          Chapter 3 in the budget is where you can find all the affordability measures.

          For working class: lower immigration levels, job creation.

          For lower income working class: grocery benefit, child benefit, daycare.

          For working class that do not own home: variety of policies that continue to drive down rental costs and first time home buying costs.

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            New here? Those are all little scraps to placate voters who want to be fooled.

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          None of them do. And unless you’re in a union, that includes the current NDP.

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            That is an insane thing to say, especially given how much Avi Lewis is fighting for us. A completely unnuanced, joke of a take built on nonsense passed down by decades of piss from the right.

            I’m honestly a little embarrassed to even be dignifying your comment with a response except that I really want to tell you and your unfettered ignorance to go fuck yourselves.

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              I’ve literally sat there and listen to the man speak. Most of his ideas are at best half-baked, and the ones that aren’t will only really benefit you if you’re in a union. I’m not, and my guess is neither are you. In fact, listen to the man discuss his wealth tax idea. he literally shouts down anyone who asks him how that would work.

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      I don’t know. How long has it been since the NDP or Conservatives fielded a competent leader?

      ^I’ll concede that Trudeau wasn’t a completely competent leader^

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        How are we defining “competent”? Because that changes the answer to that question significantly.

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      But not just corporations. A few of my friends rented a basement suite from offshore buyers. They buyer initially lived in the home, then once basement was tennated they moved back to China. 3000 and 4000 sq foot homes empty on main and upper floor for over 2 years.

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        I think it’ll be easier to go after corporate landlords than individuals who got their life savings tied into 1 or 2 houses. Far more of those homeowners will support the policy if they’re assured they aren’t being targeted for having a networth of 6 or 7 figures.

        I know for a fact that corporations are sitting on empty properties instead of lowering rents. Governments at all levels are letting it happen when homelessness is at the highest we’ve seen in our lives.

        The worst thing will be to go after random middle class landlords. They aren’t the ones causing most harm, if any. But they do vote and will vote against getting treated the same as corporate landlords.

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          Oh Corporations should not own homes. But neither should foreign buyers who don’t actually live in the country. They obviously have a home elsewhere, and are treating as an investment.

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      Unfortunately I think it’ll be a cold day in hell before a banker does anything to punish institutional real estate investors. But that tiny, seemingly inextinguishable spark of hope an optimism that lives inside me, refuses to completely give up on the idea.

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        I’d vote against anyone who does, because whatever they hit corporate landlords with will hit the people who rent from them. And it’ll be a cold day in hell when I rent from Joe down the street.

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    Looks like a pretty large chunk of this is going to programs that actually produce houses and putting homeless people in them this looks pretty good on the surface, another chunk going to healthcare and mental health in general seems pretty great. 28billion is nothing to sneeze at. I’m not sure it will completely end homelessness but I do think this will help a lot of people and at first glance seems to at least somewhat align with what experts recommend.

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      Apparently Carney will be in Winnipeg tomorrow to expand on the plan - from this article, it looks like they’re going to be supporting the strategies that have been rolled out by the provincial government over the last year, rather than replacing them.