• OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.mlOP
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    4 months ago

    I would like to pitch the idea that the obesity epidemic is a symptom of failed city infrastructure. Imagine if riding a bike was a no-friction activity; you walk out your door, you have a bike there and the bike lanes are treated as first-class infra instead of cars. Imagine how much more you would bike in this situation, and how much healthier you and everyone around you would be

    • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@slrpnk.net
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      4 months ago

      As a lifelong bike commuter who’s fifty pounds overweight and prediabetic, this isn’t the cure-all you seem to think.

      It’d be great, but it won’t be enough.

    • neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Or walking. I’ve been to a few US cities, and the common denominator for all of them is that walking anywhere isn’t really an option. Sure, you can’t always walk A to B in most cities, but at least European cities have public transit to cut down on the distance, necessitating only two short walks to and from a transit station.

      Observation: Saudi Arabia is heading down a Houstonian path. There was one pedestrian bridge near me, and outside of that one, getting anywhere involved strategic jaywalking to cross freeways. At least they seem to have a decent bus network, though.

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        4 months ago

        I really prefer walking to cycling. I’m totally fine with bike infrastructure, but I’d really just like neighbourhoods to have amenities they can walk to.

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        I’ve lived on the east coast, west coast and in Europe. Out here in the west coast (Vancouver) the cities are nice enough but anytime I leave my home I have to walk down a hill (and my partner struggles with that due to arthritis), walk along half a mile of four lane arterial roadway, squeeze through two blocks along the same roadway on an extremely narrow unprotected at grade sidewalk while semis barrel by leaning over my head… then I get to a shopping center and transit nexus and can go elsewhere.

        While living in Southern Spain I’d walk two blocks on quiet pedestrian streets to a waterfront promenade which was littered with restaurants and provided a wide (like 20 meter) surface to stroll along to reach the city center - at one point before the city center you’d need to cross a two lane high traffic road but that road had protected crosswalks every 150 meters.

        The contrast between these two places (and don’t even get me started on how pleasant Barcelona is to pedestrians) is stark.

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      4 months ago

      You’re trying to find a problem for your solution.

      The obesity epidemic actually due to the increased availability of ultra processed foods.

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        Is it? There’s primitive cultures that eat every kind of weird diet you can imagine, and they’re all thin and fit. It’s still kind of a mystery why exactly we can’t handle eating even a fraction like the historical Inuit, and just the processing itself shouldn’t change much.

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          Because ultra processed foods don’t fill us up but taste incredibly good. Technically the problem is overeating, but it’s a lot easier to overeat ultra processed foods.

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            I mean, which foods even count as ultraprocessed isn’t well defined. It’s not an ingredient, it’s not a technique. OP was trying to find a problem for their solution, you’re right, but lack of exercise is just as big of a suspect if not bigger.

            They’re engineered to be very appealing for sure, but do you have a link for the not filling us up bit? That one’s new to me.

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      That might certainly be one factor, but my intuition is that the primary driver is still todays diet. Things like soda drinks that let you consume teaspoons of pure sugar in an instant without appropriate feedback simply didn’t exist in the past.