• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    23 hours ago

    Ah, yes, [thing] is like [completely different thing]. You can believe that as much as you want, but you haven’t explained why your beliefs should be enforced on others via state violence.

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      23 hours ago

      Do you believe that people should be able to have sex out in public for everyone to see? And, why Do you feel the way you do?

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        23 hours ago

        No, because it’s people are almost universally made uncomfortable by it. It’s not like there’s a segment of society whose values and beliefs entail having sex in public. That still doesn’t support your point. I could make the exact same argument for Iranian hijab laws.

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          People are uncomfortable with it explicitly because religion made it so.

          Monkeys will fuck right in front of us and not give a shit.

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          I would say about the same number of people are offended by profanity in public as they are religious acts in public. Moreover, I would estimate the number who are offended by sex acts in public is much higher than either of these. So, for the sake of other people’s sensibilities, shall we ban public profanity?

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          23 hours ago

          I believe that public display of religion makes enough people feel uncomfortable that it was banned in Quebec.

          Let me ask you this, why do you feel that you should be able to practice your religion in plain view of everyone else when you make them uncomfortable? And a follow up question, don’t you think that you should be going to the designated spot for this?

          I certainly don’t think we should ban religion in general. That’s crazy talk. I just don’t think we should be forcing things onto other people. Do you?

          • Ginny [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            9 hours ago

            Do you feel that you should be able to hold hands with a same sex partner in plain view of everyone else when you make them uncomfortable?

            Do you feel that you should be able to be trans in plain view of everyone else when you make them uncomfortable?

            Maybe people being uncomfortable is not a good yardstick for determining what people can do in public.

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            23 hours ago

            Your opinion makes me uncomfortable and I think we should ban expressing things like this in public :(

            /end sarcasm

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                  22 hours ago

                  Porn is on the internet, does that mean people should start fucking in public?

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                  22 hours ago

                  There’s a real difference between doing something on an open internet forum and doing it out in public, physically. Online, people have to choose to click on something, follow a link, or open a post. If they don’t want to see it, they can just scroll past or block it. In the real world, you can’t avoid someone the same way—you can’t block a person walking toward you on the sidewalk, and you can’t just scroll away from something happening right in front of you.

                  Plus, online spaces usually come with filters, warnings, and moderation tools that don’t exist in physical public spaces. Everything online is also separated by screens and distance, so the impact isn’t the same as doing something right in front of people who have no way to opt out.