The online survey of 1,002 U.S. adults was conducted between Jan. 13 and 15. It found that 66 per cent of respondents want Canada to remain an independent nation

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    I’m surprised its not ~30%

    It seems to be the magic number you can get any survey of US residents to agree to no matter how ridiculous.

    If you aren’t hitting that number even the crazies think it’s a bad idea.

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    17% of Americans are uneducated and don’t really know the consequences of war.

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    So 17% of Americans are our enemy

    The question then becomes: will the other 83% be our ally and stop this 17%?

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      Based on the apathy and avarice of your average american that helped put their country in its current state I doubt very much the majority will lift a pinkie.

      They are not even fighting for their own country. They are too busy watching The Burnt Peanut and hiding in their basements which ice will soon be visiting them as well.

      Guess they never heard what happened to people considered dissenters by the Nazi govt during WWII.

      It will be a blanket way of filling Alligator Auschwitz Death Camps at a rate so fast it will make one’s head spin. All it takes is a sniveling ice coward to point and say dissenter! Poof you are detained. Wake up america, your life depends on it.

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      17% are willing to say that they WANT Canada to be part of the US. Only two-thirds are willing to say they would prefer Canadian independence.

      What percentage would really care if their stated preference was not reality? The ceiling is 2 out of 3. The ceiling. That is as good as it gets.

      What percentage would lift a finger to resist US dominion over Canada? What percentage would actively resist or take on any level of effort and or risk at all to prevent it? Dramatically less.

      If the US invaded Canada, what percentage of Americans would choose to support Canada over their own county even if the invasion was illegal or immoral? Clearly, the majority would support their government. In that scenario, what percentage of Americans would you consider to represent “the enemy?”

      And if you think I am being too harsh, let’s ask the question from a different angle. What percentage of Americans are doing anything at all to reduce the threat to Canada right now? I mean, doing anything at all? Only 2 in 3 can muster indicating it as a preference in answer to a question.

      Many people reading this will insist that they did not ask for this. What percentage of those voted against Donald Trump in the last federal election? That number is less than one third. That is an easily verifiable fact. Less than one in three did the absolute bare minimum to stop the second Trump term from happening. That means 2 out of every 3 Americans did nothing back then. What are they doing now?

      You need to revise your 17% number in your first sentence up dramatically. I am not hopeful that they answer to your second question hits anything close to double digits.

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      Well, only 66% said they didn’t want the USA to invade Canada. So no, we won’t have the support of 83%. We’d be lucky to have 40% actually speak up on our behalf, and even fewer would act.

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    17% is more than one in six. That number sounds uncomfortably high.

    I know perhaps two dozen Americans who are friends, current and former colleagues, or family. It’s disturbing to think that statistically there are perhaps 3 or 4 that don’t think that the country that I love, that is my home, that has allied with them and sacrificed for that alliance, should exist. That I should bow to their power. It’s psycho shit.

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      Most likely the other half of the roughly 30% of Americans who represent the MAGA coalition think that annexation would be doing us a favour - elevating a bunch of ungrateful socialists to the American standard of living or something like that.

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      I think it’s hard for people in other countries to realize how deeply propagandized Americans have been for their entire lives. They are relentlessly taught that the USA is the greatest country and the only place anyone in their right mind would want to live, and that the USA brings freedom to the world, even as they suffer bad working conditions, crappy housing, a violent society and poor education and healthcare. They believe they are the only country with true freedom, even as they’re allowed to embrace a range of political views all the way from neoliberalism to fascism, murdered by brutal armed police, and imprisoned at the highest rate in the world.

      So some of these will be so steeped in the propaganda that they genuinely believe US invasions are doing other countries a favour.

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      I kind of want an American to ask me all butthurt why I don’t want to join the US, just so I can use the 11th province line.

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        I don’t want them to be Canadian either though. We have enough problems with Alberta. Pulling in any state will be even worse.

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            There’s a fair minority in Canada, too. If it wasn’t for the whole 10x our population thing maybe it would be fine.

            California has about the same population just on it’s own. If it was the empty part of New England or Hawaii it might be a good addition.

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          … Well, why don’t you want to be the 11th province.

          Since I know you’re one of the good Americans, it’s not really going to answer the question of how they’d respond, since I’m honestly not sure.

          I’ve had acquaintances actually asked this while down there, I’m not making it up.

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            Oh I don’t doubt that they were asked. Americans of that breed are simple creatures. America good. Elsewhere bad. Why would you NOT want to live in the good place with freedoms and GUNS!?

            That’s it. That’s literally all the thinking that goes into it. You’re not missing something. They are just extremely stupid and propagandized into believing that the rest of the world is literally on fire and covered in the blood of babies at all moments.

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    I wish the worst towards all of those who wish to invade us. So fucking sick of these imperialists.

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    They’d quickly change their minds if they knew how expensive the gas prices would get after they invaded and their oil refinement infrastructure gets hit like Russia’s has been.

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    I guess it serves as a data point indicating what the percentage of Americans who will agree to the craziest shit available on the opinion poll answers is up to now. Seems to me it was as low as 10% not too many years ago.

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    they will all die in the yukon and the high artic trying to take it. theres a reason why most of alaska is uninhabitable.