“BUT THE CHINESE WILL SPY ON US”
Have you seen what the Yanks have been up to?
At least the Chinese cars are inexpensive
It’s pragmatism, try it out some time
I wonder if us Yanks can come over the border and buy some too? I want a byd 😭
“BUT THE CHINESE WILL SPY ON US”
Have you seen what the Yanks have been up to?
I would rather have neither be using my property to spy on me.
Agreed - my point is that if both are “not great”, except one is cheaper…
China wins
China uses slavery and genocide to get ahead economically. Maybe we should be avoiding both.
Then why are we not investing in making it ourselves?
If any car manufacturer thought it was profitable it would happen.
if we waited for things to be profitable before making them we wouldn’t have the roads for these cars to drive on
You’re conflating infrastructure with consumer goods. Ask Stellantis how well the Dodge Charger EV is going (less than 2,000 units sold).
Because stellantis makes shitty vehicles in general.
Oh no, they will watch me driving back and forth to work every day.
Jesus fuck, this is the shit I heard back around 2006 wrt Facebook.
Should BYD vehicles be allowed on military bases, or carrying federal employees?
the yanks already do
Canadians buy 2M vehicles a year. This deal only allows in 50,000.
When Xpeng wanted to sell in EU, they had to assemble the cars in Austria with Canada’s Magna.
So why is Magna making Chinese EVs in Austria, but not in Canada?
50000 on year one. More later
Assembled in Australis is like saying your ikea furniture was manufactured in your living room.
According to Statistics Canada, 264,000 EV’s were sold in 2024.
50,000 of those potentially being Chinese EVs is not a small percentage. That is a significant chunk of our yearly EV sales.
cause EU is better at negotiating I guess
As an addition, BYD has laready been used slave labour not only in its domestic factories but also abroad such as in Hungary and Brazil.
For this reason, Brazil puts China’s BYD on list of shame for workers’ past slavery-like conditions.
Brazil has put China’s BYD on a registry of employers who have subjected workers to conditions similar to slavery, after a 2024 scandal in which Chinese workers were said to have been victims of human trafficking and abusive contracts.
The list, published by Brazil’s Labor Ministry, carries further reputational risk for the automaker in its biggest market after China.
I don’t understand why such a company is allowed to sell its products.
Because a bunch of ‘Canadians’ in high places are about to make some money.
@Scotty@scribe.disroot.org posting this from a smartphone made in a foxconn factory with suicide nets.
The linked source is a dedicated propaganda outlet operating under the Chinese Communist Party’s censorship regime.
It’s amazing that some users criticize (rightfully) if one posts U.S.-owned media outlets, calling them biased, while the wumaos and ziganwus then post sources directly from a dictatorial government in China.
One thing this SCMP propaganda medium doesn’t mention is that Canadian interest in China-made EVs is tempered by data concerns, according to a survey.
And, yes, all EVs are able to collect data, but if and when the data goes to China we must recognize that it goes to the largest dictatorship in history, and the Chinese government has been using such leverage in other countries for political gains and coercion.
It makes a huge difference, and PM Mark Carney knows that as he himself called out China as Canada’s biggest security threat. This was less than a year ago.
And, yes, all EVs are able to collect data,
Which is the bigger problem.
What data though? With thousands of cars that can connect to cell networks, wifi networks, bluetooth devices, and gps you get a fleet of war drivers.
By corrilating times, locations and mac addresses it would be trivial to find and track individuals using their personal devices.
Yes any government COULD do this but there would be loads of red tape and negotiating with manufactures. Chinese manufactures have no choice, they ship surveillance software when they are told to or they don’t get to sell internationally.
Yes any government COULD do this but there would be loads of red tape and negotiating with manufactures. Chinese manufactures have no choice, they ship surveillance software when they are told to or they don’t get to sell internationally.
Just China?
Any other government would have to work with manufactures operating in other countries, it would be a big project to get all the different parties involved on the same page quietly.
The Chinese government can dictate what Chinese manufactures do, there is no negotiating or wrangling, just you do it or you are replaced by someone who can. Non compliant business don’t get to be international businesses.
the comment is from a dedicated spam account operating to spread sinophobia and hate
Exactly what vital data will China get from monitoring cars?
What will they do with all that data? There will be exabytes of data flowing from cars stuck on the 403 every day.
What about Tesla data in control of a Nazi and Fascist supporter.
I hope that Stellantis will start manufacturing the EVs here.
Stellantis makes the incredibly terrible Dodge Charger in Ontario. No one is buying them. Stellantis has no idea how to make cars.
That will never happen. There’s no business case for it.
The Dodge Charger EV is made in Ontario.
Recent numbers say 1,947 Dodge Charger EV’s were sold. BYD sold 431K+. Why would BYD build a manufacturing plant in Canada?
https://www.theautopian.com/dodge-now-sells-way-more-electric-chargers-than-gas-powered-ones/
Chinese propaganda outlet though.
Different link saying they’re coming to Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/chinese-evs-canada-timeline-9.7117780
I am a Canadian and excited to see what they’ll sell here. I might even buy one if they do well in the winter.
a lost redditor appears
China : 2+2=4
Anti-China zealots : That’s propaganda. 2+2=5
Considering if a cheap car will last CDN winters is anti-China?
How many new models from established companies are reliable? How many EVs from any company are reliable?
If you don’t like cheap cars becuase they are cheap and made in China then why do cheap winter jackets made in China work in winters?
If your point is against EVs in general, than that’s a different point. The only real problem of EVs in winter is charging and range. Reliability is not much of a problem that is a solved problem.
seem to do ok in Norway in winter. perhaps ask some Norwegians ?
They will just say they are different just like why Canada winter is so different that we cannot use bikes here but they can.
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