Usually I am sympathetic towards people losing their jobs. However, that goes out the window when their government is hostile and I am watching family struggle due to the trade war.
Usually I am sympathetic towards people losing their jobs. However, that goes out the window when their government is hostile and I am watching family struggle due to the trade war.
To the Americans crying about how unfair we’re being by celebrating their economic loss and how “what are we supposed to do about our administration?”
Now you know a fraction of how every person in a country under US sanctions feels. The exact logic you’re railing against is the same logic your country applies to Cuba.
The difference being those people have to deal with the immiserstion of brutal poverty and you just have to deal with having to find a new job and some mean Canadians online poking fun at you. Cry me a river.
You can dress it up any way you like, delighting in innocent people’s suffering makes you unequivocally a huge asshole and always will.
YOU VOTED FOR YOUR MISSERY AND IT AFFECTED THE WORLD AND NOW YOU ARE SURPRISED PEOPLE ARE NOT SUPPORTING YOU.
YOUR COUNTRY IS THE WORLD TERRORIST AND THE FACT THAT ONE MAN CAN AFFECT THE WORLD ECONOMY LIKE YOUR ORANGE MUSSOLINI HAS IS PROOF OF IT.
YES, PEOPLE ARE HAPPY THAT YOUR COUNTRY IS FEELING A SLIGHT SLIVER OF WHAT IT HAS DISHED OUT TO OTHERS IN OVER 250 YEARS.
YOUR IGNORANCE IS WHAT FUELS YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR “EXCEPTIONALISM” IS ALL YOU KNOW.
IMAGINE THINKING YOU ARE THE BEST NATION ON EARTH ALL WHILE TERRORIZING MOST OTHER NATIONS FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
THIS IS WHY WE ARE PISSED.
NOW FUCK OFF AND GET RID OF YOUR FASCISTS.
Yeah I agree, we suck.
However, don’t you ever fucking tell me that I voted for this ever again.
Didn’t read it, but like I said, dress it up any way you like, bigot.
That’s not what bigot means lol
Absolutely does actually
Intolerance of people from any country will always be bigotry, nothing you or I could do to change that regardless
Not having sympathy due to the government you guys elected is not the same as intolerance. Stop acting like a victim
I’m not a victim, I didn’t lose my job and become homeless only to be mocked for my suffering even though I hated and opposed trump. (An actual thing that positively will become true.)
I’m just an inconvenient truth teller for you all. There are no words you can say to justify mocking the suffering of innocent people which we all know will happen. We both know it and that these justifications are for making yourselves feel better. Good luck with that.
Good for you or im sorry to hear that or whatever. I dunno i didn’t read it when it sounded like more whining. Bye baby girl
How are you unable to see that not at all the same? They’re using facts to show one country has done a LOT of bad towards the whole world, soecific countries even more so. That in no way is “strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics”, it’s them being with all of the world other than the country in question who has objectively done the bad things. And it’s absolutely not “intolerant of those who differ”. It’s clear from your comments that you’re a brainwashed idiot but you clearly also have problems comprehending simple words.
Yes I’m brainwashed as fuck because I think judging hundreds of millions of people for what 35% believes makes one a shitty bigot.
But by your own definition of bigotry there’s none of that to be found in this thread. Sure, you could construe an intolerance of people from the US (even though it’s more like intolerance of their many years of harmful bullshit) but there’s absolutely no partiality toward any group. It’s purely frustration at the US and many of its citizens’ stubborn unwillingness to own up to the countless problems their country has caused across generations, let alone right now.
I’m intolerant of the US in the same way someone might be lactose intolerant. When you find out, it doesn’t mean you immediately hate all dairy, you just have to start considering what items are worth the consequences.
Ps is it “many years of harmful bullshit” that are going to be homeless because they lost their job? You all cannot defend this shit and you know what you are, you just think it’s justified because others are worse
The holier-than-thou mentality really doesn’t hold up to any standard of practicality when it comes to relations between countries. No doubt people are struggling in the US, yet purely because of the fact that there are more people living outside of the US as opposed to within its territories, you better believe I’m going to be grateful when non-US folk are doing better than US ones, especially since it’s in spite of everything the latter has done.
Plus a little schadenfraude for all the problems we’ve overcome and even improved ourselves through after the US sent them our way, it’s good for morale after all.
I copied and pasted a definition that any moron could extrapolate from
You are paying the price of stupidity and it is just the beginning. It is not about being Happy or Sad, it is just how life corrects itself and show people how stupid they have been.
See comment you replied to.
Maybe those innocent people should haul a guillotine down to DC and loudly complain to those responsible for this mess instead of pointing fingers at other countries.
Y’all get no sympathy from me. Take care of your fucking fascism problem. The second amendment is useful for more than shooting children in classrooms.
What a useful thing to say. Because all Americans are murderers or at least delight in school shootings, all we have to do is violently overthrow the most powerful government in history. This is totally not the thinking of a brain damaged child.
Oh wow! The exact same sentiment that USians were repeating time and again for the past four years about Russians, is verboten when it comes to USians themselves. What a surprise!
Literally never heard this once. You hang out in some fucking weird places and I’m guessing you’re just admitting to being a tankie with this.
Oh yeah, anyone who’s pointing out USian hypocrisy is a tankie.
No people weirdly simping for Russia apropos of fucking nothing, clearly are
Sure, apropos of nothing but four years of USians bitching across social media on how Russians are all subhuman scum that all deserve to burn right where they are. Then when the US has their own mentally ill pedofascist conman as the president for the second time, it’s suddenly “oh well, what can you do”.
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You are american, you are born awful.
Sometimes the baby gets thrown out with the bath water. It sucks, but that’s life (at least, that’s what people say).
I literally have you tagged as “victim blamer” from months ago.
Wow, a fan. Sorry I don’t pay attention to the internet names but I used to read Dick Tracy in the newspaper as a kid. Your heart seems in the right place you just need to step further back a little to see the whole forest.
I have stepped back. That’s why humanity is so fucking consistently disappointing.
That’s what someone who is still trapped in attachment, expectation, and desire says.
You have definitely not stepped back based on all your comments. You’re the common stereotype of an American who THINKS they’ve done that but it’s extremely clear to everyone else that you just have slightly less tunnel vision than most Americans, and what you have is still well within the borders of pinhole tunnel vision with your face planted on the ground.
“because I’m objectively a bigot, the person saying it has many issues I will list at length. This is definitely not to distract from the truth at hand.”
“Bigot” – an example of how fascists co-opt and exploit the language of progressives
Not many innocents. They voted for this, and a third didn’t care to vote at all
That third voted for this by sitting out.
voting and sitting out are not the same
Voting third party in the general is at best sitting it out, at worst voting for the Republican, but you know that.
Republicans are part of the two-party duopoly. voting for a so-called third party is not voting for either of those parties.
It’s fptp, third parties are fundamentally nonviable in the overwhelming majority of places. It is functionally impossible for a third party to win the presidency. Due to gerrymandering and the spoiler effect most third party votes help Republicans get elected. Vote for Dems oyn the general and vote for the most progressive candidates available in the primaries. That’s the only actual way in the current political system to effect progressive change at the federal level, by tea partying the Dems leftward. Anything else gets republicans elected. But on the other hand the fascism has come too far for elections to fix it any more, so there you go.
not with that attitude.
The people who voted for the Dumpster at least managed to take the most basic, simple first step in starting to fulfill their civic duty. I don’t know if I can bring myself to laud that, but I’ve certainly no credit to award those who didn’t even vote at all.
If so much as 10% of the nation is engaged and has so much as a spark of competence yet cannot bear to vote Democrat, where did all the 3rd-party and off-ballot votes go? Why are those still practically a rounding error, hovering around 2% every year but 2016?
Those who didn’t vote at all ought to feel the most shame, because the laziness of abdicating all personal responsibility doesn’t offer half the emotional shielding that idiocy does.
I’m unsure how to feel about the non-voters. Im in UK and didnt vote in the Brexit thing, because I didn’t understand nearly enough of the rules or regulations and was being sent contradictory pamphlets every day.
I dont know what it looked like inside the US leading up to the election, so maybe it didnt seem as easily “maybe good vs definitely evil” as it did from the outside.
That reason might have flown in the first Trump election. Not so much the second one.
who knows? could be that the media ices out all other parties. could be that political operatives have been vote-shaming and spreading a myth about its inefficacy.
Yes let us justify our disgusting behavior by grouping in innocent people with others. Feels like there’s a name for that. Hmm.
America Electoral System?
They are grouped. It’s called the United States. They, as a country, voted for this. They, as a country, tolerate this.
Not even close to a majority did, not that even if a majority did it would justify you gleefully laughing about newly created homeless people who fucking didn’t.
Tough shit! You’re fucking doing it. It doesn’t matter why you’re fucking doing it. If you’re doing it because your system of governance is broken, that’s still your fucking problem to solve. What, you want us to come down there and fucking solve it for you?? What are you even doing here? What stunted emotional need are you trying to meet right now?
Well hopefully this will be a lesson learned for the apathetic populous that allowed this to happen.
Indeed, some “justified” bigotry will teach us a lesson. Perhaps next time we’ll try some shit like the Jan 6 morons. How about we try an even stupider version of it. Express a bit more hatred for us and any day we’ll do it.
YOU ARE SUCH A TYPICAL AMERICAN, INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING YOU LASHE OUT AT THOSE OBSERVING LIKE IT IS OUR FAULT.
CLEAN YOUR ROOM BIG BOY AND SHOW THE REST OF THE WORLD WHAT AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM REALLY IS.
They were pushing back. Not lashing out. And here you are screaming at them about it. Alright bud.
Americans need the world to scream at them for all the bad things they have done in history.
You guys love pretending you are the good guys all while creating horrible outcomes for the majority of the world and taking no blame at all. All in the name of $$$$
In fact you live in denial; denial of why 911 happened, denial of slavery, denial of anything that can remotely paint your country as bad.
I could go on but I’m tired, tired of fascism at the end of my days, tired of stupidity repeated ad nauseum.
Are you aware that typing in all caps is strongly associated with morons?
Ever heard of realpolitik? Being righteous doesn’t matter on a geopolitical scale, especially not when it comes to an imperial superpower currently in the midst of its death throes. I’m afraid you’ll have to come to terms with billions of people understandably revelling in hundreds of years of a country’s utter nonsense finally returning itself to sender. Might be irrational, but it’s definitely not without precedent.
Yes I have heard of flimsy bullshit justifications before
Mhm… I’m sure you have some solid reasoning for that claim that you’re withholding for good cause and not for a complete lack of substance.
But you’re not an asshole because the very shitty belief you have is part of a bigger picture, or something. Pathetic.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY AMERICANS GET NO SYMPATHY FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD.
THIS RIGHT HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM.
I’m guessing there’s a lot said that you don’t understand. I tire of you. Sure will miss these thoughtful takes though.
Show me one goddamn person who’s happy. Nobody is fucking delighted about any of this shit your country has done. Even MAGA can no longer lie to themselves.
So all the USians celebrating that Russia is cut off from Western trade and SWIFT, and that its economy is failing, are huge assholes?
Did you actually think I wouldn’t say yes to that? “No, it’s fine to do it when I hate an entire people” /s
Literally the entire point I’m making is that it is horrendous to blindly cast hatred upon thousands/millions of strangers.
But yet you have no words for your own country only others.
SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOUR WORDS ARE MEANINGLESS AT THIS POINT FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD.
I do not always agree with the person you’re replying to, but to suggest that they don’t ever have criticism for the US is extremely disingenuous.
What they’re arguing is that there are over seventy-five million of us that actively voted against this, and those people do not deserve the blame here.
Do you know how many people that actually is? I mean truly?
According to a quick Google search, the amount of people who voted for Kamala Harris in 2024 is larger than the entire populations of every country after Germany on the list of nations by population. That’s from number 20 to number 234.
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/
That’s the amount of people who voted. For Kamala. People who were eligible, registered, and showed up even after Dems pulled their candidate last minute.
More people than in all of Thailand. More people than in all of France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Egypt, Turkey, South Korea… I will stop because it would literally be easier to just list the 19 nations with a higher population than total Kamala Harris voters.
Now spread that over a land mass the size of China, and maybe you’ll start to understand why people in Washington State aren’t “making a day of it” to bring a guillotine to the white house (and do what, exactly? I mean talk about empty fucking gestures) in DC. A literal continent away. A literal physical impossibility for a working person to do.
Just like Germans in 1945.
American exceptionalism right here folks.
They are now too afraid to fight fascists because they are the fascists.
Well, then I don’t see any shortage of USian assholes on social media, specifically Lemmy and especially Reddit.
I literally haven’t seen that come up. My eyes have been opened about this “Canadians are so nice” thing though. Total bullshit.
Edit: The fact that you bring up Russians out of the blue like this on Lemmy is interesting for me personally too because my go-to example, on this topic, of what I wouldn’t do is wish ill on the Russian people as a whole because of Putin’s misdeeds. The reason it is my go-to example is that I know Putin has a lot of public support there.
It will never be okay to wish death and despair on large groups of innocent people because of what oligarchs do. It just makes you seem like a thoughtless and heartless bigoted piece of shit if you do it.
It literally doesn’t matter. It is total bullshit, but it is human bullshit.
Some will cry, some will gnash, some will joke, some will mock, some will defend, some will be hopelessly devoid of nuance.
It doesn’t matter because it’s playing right into the hands of the ruling class. There is zero fucking difference between all of this, no matter where you’re from, not functionally.
No matter which people from where at the time are spouting whichever opinion, it doesn’t matter.
Whoa dude, deep.
Now how about you shut the fuck up and become an adult with the rest of us.
No one gives a fuck about this nihilist bullshit, ironically.
I wasn’t being nihilistic. I was pointing out an anthropological fact. I can take the first Canadian comment and take it on a walk through time on the People’s Canada has harmed and–
No, actually. Fuck this and fuck me for trying to help. Fuck the Canadians. Fuck you too.
All of them? What about the “innocent” ones?
Ohh you got me! I’m a huge hypocrite. Because what I was saying is that I take great pleasure in knowing every newly homeless Canadian absolutely deserves it! Hahahha I’m fucking evil but it’s justified!! /s
It’s refreshing to see an internet person admit when they’re wrong. That’s the first step to wisdom. Don’t worry, you’ll get there.
Obviously all Canadians being nice was bullshit lol, it’s a textbook stereotype. I’m afraid you have no one to blame but yourself for taking that at face value.
50+% of the US is not innocent, so fuck off
edit: sorry, 50+% of eligible voters. not of the whole population
Yes you are right, because:
I probably will “fuck off” soon. Have your echo chamber of mentally distraught hatred and justify it all you want
All of these people think that their country is immune.
They’re not dumb, and they don’t vote the wrong way, so that means this can never happen to them.
Welcome to life as an American in 2015. Good luck.
You shouldn’t spoil their good time. They’re just giddy that some people just started their track to homelessness. I mean literally, how would they NOT deserve it? They saw some American dickhead on the Internet laugh at them or something? This justifies it all. These great model Canadians know that they are far superior. Precisely because they were born in Canada.
Oh fuck off.
Lol.
Lib
lol the only person you can imagine being objective is called a “liberal”