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      14 hours ago

      The problem is not if it should or shouldn’t happen

      The problem is that it will not be enforced equally between religious communities and Christian poser asshole

      It’s racism with more steps

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        7 hours ago

        What bothers me about this perspective is the implicit assumption that everyone who thinks that public displays of religion should be banned is actually motivated by racism, rather than recognising that somebody can be against this for non-racist reasons.

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          That is not push on a non-racism way in Quebec. Like I said they don’t want to use the law equally, they want to use it specifically against Muslim.

          And so far, from my perspective (that is a confirmation biais), no one debate the idea without a racist undertone

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        14 hours ago

        It’s not racism with more steps. You don’t even know it has not been enforced improperly. It’s a lot easier to enforce enforcement than it is to stop people ruining the world

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          5 hours ago

          Praying doesn’t ruin the world. Just like having a party, or a poetry slam, or Shakespeare in the park.

          It’s behaviors that cause health or safety issues that are the problem.

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              Sorry, can you expand on the ways prayer is like sex? Are people praying with their dicks out in your vicinity?

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        14 hours ago

        Religion is like sex. You can do it in your home and maybe even designated enclosed places in groups, but you should never do it out in public—and under no circumstances should you ever involve children.

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          14 hours ago

          Ah, yes, [thing] is like [completely different thing]. You can believe that as much as you want, but you haven’t explained why your beliefs should be enforced on others via state violence.

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            13 hours ago

            Do you believe that people should be able to have sex out in public for everyone to see? And, why Do you feel the way you do?

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              13 hours ago

              No, because it’s people are almost universally made uncomfortable by it. It’s not like there’s a segment of society whose values and beliefs entail having sex in public. That still doesn’t support your point. I could make the exact same argument for Iranian hijab laws.

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                13 hours ago

                I believe that public display of religion makes enough people feel uncomfortable that it was banned in Quebec.

                Let me ask you this, why do you feel that you should be able to practice your religion in plain view of everyone else when you make them uncomfortable? And a follow up question, don’t you think that you should be going to the designated spot for this?

                I certainly don’t think we should ban religion in general. That’s crazy talk. I just don’t think we should be forcing things onto other people. Do you?